A judge has dismissed a lawsuit contesting a transgender woman’s admission into a sorority at the University of Wyoming, ruling that he could not override how the private, voluntary organization defined a woman and order that she not belong.

In the lawsuit, six members of the Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority chapter challenged Artemis Langford’s admission by casting doubt on whether sorority rules allowed a transgender woman. Wyoming U.S. District Court Judge Alan Johnson, in his ruling, found that sorority bylaws don’t define who’s a woman.

The case at Wyoming’s only four-year public university drew widespread attention as transgender people fight for more acceptance in schools, athletics, workplaces and elsewhere, while others push back.

  • stopthatgirl7
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    Not in my dorm, no. But she was living on campus in a dorm and no one seemed to give the smallest of fucks at the time. I wouldn’t have cared in the slightest had she been living in my dorm.

    Oh and.

    Anassa kata kalo kale,
    Ia, ia, ia, Nike!
    Bryn Mawr, Bryn Mawr, Bryn Mawr
    TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN.

      • @Alteon
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        Won’t anyone think of the __________!..so that we have an excuse to continually strip you of rights and privileges. You won’t be any safer than you were before this WAY overblown issue, but we’ve now made it more difficult for this one targeted minority group to coexist with OUR group, and you’ve lost the right to do X, Y, and Z. But hey, atleast you’ve saved the ____________ from having to go through my totally hyperbolic scenario.

        • stopthatgirl7
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          And it is just effing W I L D how women are told they need to just suck it up it they’re nervous around men because of a past sexual assault (“Not all men! You can’t judge half the species by one bad guy!” Etc etc), but it’s completely OK for women to be nervous around trans women if they were sexually assaulted by a man. Weird how they insist trans women are men but you never hear that same “not all men! You can’t judge all men based on the actions of one bad guy!” thing when it’s that scenario, huh.

          • @[email protected]
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            31 year ago

            “You can’t let trans women, use the woman’s washroom. They’ll rape the women!”

            Pretty sure a women going into a bathroom has never stopped a rapist before.

        • Tb0n3
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          I’m not telling any woman anything. I’m merely pointing out that there’s real people with real issues that are ignored when you just blanket call it ridiculous. You don’t have to be in a group to be able to point out rationales.

          • stopthatgirl7
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            331 year ago

            Uh huh.

            Look at you, completely blowing off the words of a woman in that group you’re supposedly defending. But then, I’m saying something you don’t want to hear and doesn’t fit the narrative you’ve constructed as your excuse to hate trans folks.

            Stop using women as your excuse. You don’t care about us, not really. If you did, you’d be out there protesting with that same full-throatedness at male guards assaulting women in prisons and the 1-in-4 statistic. But you’re not. You’re raging at a marginalized group that is statistically more often the victim of assaults than the ones doing it. But you don’t care at all about that, do you.

            The only person you’re fooling is yourself.

            • Tb0n3
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              The one in four statistic is bullshit. All I’m doing is saying that they have the right to not like it. If they have reasons it doesn’t matter what they are. It’s their house where they live, where they sleep where they shower. They want to feel safe and they don’t feel safe so they are making complaints and everyone in this thread is calling them bigots because they don’t like it.

              • stopthatgirl7
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                41 year ago

                The one in four statistic is bullshit

                Yeah, you’re not worth any more of my time and you definitely don’t actually care about women. You have the mediocre day you deserve.

      • @[email protected]
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        291 year ago

        I’m worried women with traumatic pasts are afraid of Tb0n3 using the internet, so I think we should ban Tb0n3 from using the internet to make these unnamed women feel less afraid. In fact, we take away all of Tb0n3’s access to any electronic devices while we figure this out. We have to do it to keep women safe.

        • Tb0n3
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          I’m merely defending their right to use the argument. And there’s a massive difference between somebody saying things on the Internet and somebody sharing a bathroom or sleeping in the next room.

          • @Ensign_Crab
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            I’m merely defending their right to use the argument.

            Bullshit. You’re using them as shields for your own bigotry against the trans people you hate.

          • @[email protected]
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            I already said others might not feel safe if you were allowed to use electronics, yet here you are again, completely insisting on using this site despite the harm you may cause. We should probably get law enforcement involved at this point, just so these people I imagined might be afraid can be safe. They can forcibly take away your computer and phone while the rest of us figure this out. Sure, you think there is a massive difference, but that is just something someone dangerous like you would say to trick them. More proof that you need to remain banned from participation.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    Doubling down on the hate speech I see. Is this your programming glitching? I’ve heard AI has trouble when the conversation goes more than a couple of lines, but I didn’t know it went into full on KKK mode. At least, I hope you are AI, given how easy it was to get you to show some true hateful colors.

      • @[email protected]
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        Because rapes don’t happen in a completely cis prison?

        I bet they happen even more than with trans inmates.

        Don’t drop your soap.

        • Tb0n3
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          One thing more bad which means thing that less bad not exist.

            • Tb0n3
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              Why add any more risks? Just because one thing is a high risk doesn’t mean another thing can’t also be a risk.

              • stopthatgirl7
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                Look at you, completely ignoring the real dangers to women to focus on a minuscule one.

                This is just your excuse to hate on trans folks. You don’t really give the first flying fuck about women. As a woman: leave us out of it. We don’t need your kind of “defense.”

                • Tb0n3
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                  Just because you don’t like what other women believe doesn’t mean they can’t believe it.

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                    I never thought I’d see a thread on Lemmy arguing that a group of young women should be forced to live with someone that they clearly don’t want to.

                    Good for you for arguing with them, I don’t have the energy this morning.

          • @IchNichtenLichten
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            Your second example is false. Your first points to a systemic problem with Riker’s as evidenced here: https://www.bronxda.nyc.gov/downloads/pdf/pr/2021/39-2021 rikers-island-violence-indictments.pdf

            “Since Grand Juries re-convened in late February/March of 2021, the Rikers Island Prosecution Bureau has indicted 37 cases involving assaults on staff as well as assaults by detainees on detainees. The majority of the cases were brought to the bureau by Department of Correction’s Correction Intelligence Bureau as investigations. There are currently approximately 268 open investigations.”

            Looks like you found one example in amongst a whole bunch of other assaults which were not committed by trans people.

            • Tb0n3
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              3 links. And if there’s even one it can certainly make rape victims uncomfortable about sharing a living space with men, or “penis havers”. Maybe they’re in a sorority to stay away from dicks.

              You asked for an example of it ever happening and I provided examples of it ever happening but you ignore them and claim one is false. Great goalpost moving there.

              • stopthatgirl7
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                It’s so wild how you seem to think trans women are sexual deviants and that female rape victims cower in terror at the thought of a penis in their general vicinity.

              • @IchNichtenLichten
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                I missed the first one, that’s problematic as an example, did you read what you linked to? The Guardian one is false.

                The Riker’s one does seem to support your assertion but it’s mixed in with a whole bunch of other assaults because it’s Riker’s.

                • Tb0n3
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                  I literally do not care enough to read the articles, but you’re saying that one of them proved my point. You asked for one. Apparently I gave you one and again you’re shifting the goal posts.

                  • @WindInTrees
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                    I literally do not care enough to read the articles

                    Oops, you said the quiet part out loud! LMAO

                  • Dee
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                    I literally do not care enough to read the articles

                    Which is another reason your opinion can be thrown promptly in the trash. Can’t even be bothered to read the sources and yet want to appear as some authority on the subject. Laughable, disingenuous behavior.

                  • @IchNichtenLichten
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                    The best you could come up with was one perpetrated at one of the most lawless and violent prisons in the country, one that is not fit for purpose but hey, you think you won an argument so you enjoy that.

      • @Ultraviolet
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        Anyone can be afraid of anything. That’s their problem, talk it out with a therapist instead of discriminating against people that are just living their lives and aren’t doing anything to hurt you.

        • @[email protected]
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          Plenty of people are afraid of other races, but we recognize that as racism, and we don’t try to pass laws in order to make racists comfortable.

      • @[email protected]
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        What does being trans have to do with it? Rape is wrong whether a trans person or a cis person does it. It’s just wrong, period.