Hi, I’m wondering myself is root useful or not ? In which case it can be useful ? And Root with magisk is unsecure ?

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    English
    161 year ago

    No, it’s like saying having admin permissions is one of the most dangerous things you can do on your home computer. Only an idiot would think that.

    • Milady
      link
      English
      21 year ago

      I mean, it is, if you don’t have admin you can’t install root-level malware directly (still can if the malware uses some bug to gain privilege). But I still fully agree with your point, I just wanted to say that technically, having root is dangerous in the sense that you can do anything. Most end users have no reason to modify system files etc. Since they only use a web browser and word.

      • @ChonkaLoo
        link
        English
        11 year ago

        That’s going to be a thing of the past. The future for corporate users is a locked down monitored system with least privilege access in the name of security. Zero Trust they call it.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        -21 year ago

        How much damage to end users deal

        When I was in IT

        most people aren’t

        most people click

        1. I’m talking about home computers

        2. Skill issue + not my problem. It doesn’t matter if most people are competent, they should have full control over their property. The ones who fuck up will be responsible for the consequences of their actions. Most people are too stupid to use power tools correctly, but the last time I checked, I didn’t have to nicely ask Milwaukee to unlock the bootloader on my drill so I could use it with torx bits.

          • @Zak
            link
            English
            11 year ago

            You absolutely are NOT allowed by Milwaukee to open up your drill and self-service it without voiding their warranty

            If you’re in the USA, however, you’re allowed to do that by federal law, and Milwaukee is forbidden from voiding the warranty unless they can prove you serviced it incorrectly enough to cause the problem you’re seeking warranty service for.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act

              • @Zak
                link
                English
                11 year ago

                The act was primarily written to target tie-in service for profit, which is not the primary motivation of companies making consumer electronics that are difficult to service today; they want it to be replaced, not repaired. It was effective for that purpose, and continues to be effective when enforced.

                Moss isn’t a panacea. It does not cover making devices impossible to service in a cost-effective manner, availability of parts, serialization, or other anti-repair practices. It’s just about warranties.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            -11 year ago

            Is your ability to deliberately misinterpret everything you read the result of study, or does it come naturally?

    • @9tr6gyp3
      link
      English
      0
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Notably, there is a difference between admin and root.

      One has checks, the other can run scripts, change permissions, move files, delete files, hide malware, install rootkits, install ransomware, exfiltrate data, alter your OS, change hardware voltages, etc all without so much as a prompt.

      It doesn’t matter if you’re a beginner or a seasoned veteran with handling root, it can cause some heavy damage to your system when you or another application mishandle it.

      Rule of thumb is to remain in user mode for the entirety of your sessions. Only use admin rights when you need to make a system change. Most well-designed applications should not need to be run as admin, and definitely not root.

        • @9tr6gyp3
          link
          English
          11 year ago

          Its called the principle of least privilege, or principle of minimal privilege, or principle of least authority.

          Its a philosophy learned by anyone who is serious about information assurance. Its a very basic, yet fundamental security concept.

            • @9tr6gyp3
              link
              English
              11 year ago

              This is relevant to giving apps “root access”. How is that not relevant?

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      -11 year ago

      Lol you’re not getting those admin permissions by flipping a simple switch. Root access is far more involved than simple admin permissions so please try again.