TBH I dont really like Homeoffice. Im not a social person and Homeoffice would make it even worse. I dont actually get why people love to stay home all week. It just feels wrong to me.
Ill never understand anything other than this. Like im not an asshole to my coworkers, I still talk to them from time to time, but ultimately im at work to make the green paper, I just want to do my thing and leave that hell.
Right, I’m nice to them. I don’t refuse to talk to them at all, but I’m just not there to socialize. I’m not interested in talking about my kid or sports or movies or anything like that with people at work. You have to walk on eggshells anyway in case you say something that offends someone’s political or social sensibilities. And I live in Indiana, which means I can’t say the things I want to say when some asshole Republican in the office doesn’t care about work etiquette. So I just keep my earbuds in.
If you are not social, that means you are disincentivized to practice social interaction. That means you have a hard time socializing to not feel lonely when you do feel so.
I have always felt lonely as hell. And since I was not fucking stepping out to keep relationships alive and practice human interaction, I dug myself deeper into this hole. Now I cant even fucking make friends.
I would love to stay home and chill out. But I know Im wasting away in this virgin hell every single day.
I mean I am not social either, but I wouldn’t go back to the office just because I lack social interaction I would rather take up some hobbies that take me among people.
Also a huge benefit for me is that the time I would spend commuting I spend walking my dog instead.
not to mention I get up when I get up, absolute freedom.
the downside is lack of separation between work and home since I can technically work anytime I want.
There are many ways to socialize beyond work. I have a few work friends but I have many more friends with deeper connections whom I chose to stay in touch with outside of work.
Work friends will always have an essence of “if I didn’t have to interact with you every day I probably wouldn’t seek you out on my own” and many of them are very aware of it.
You’re entitled to want to work from the office. I don’t think anyone in the “I want to work from home” camp has ever said or implied that WFH should be the only option.
The key argument from the WFH people is that, you should have the choice to work from wherever works best for you. No questions asked.
I know plenty of people who want to be in office all day, and they believe that helps them (I have no idea if it does or not and I have no data to say either way). I respect that choice. You should be able to work from the office if you wish.
The WFH advocates just want it to be a personal choice whether you work from an office or from home. It shouldn’t be something that everyone is forced to do, one way or the other.
For me, the cost savings alone from my commute, both financially, and in terms of time, are huge when working from home. The pandemic demonstrated that working from home is 100% viable. Many companies continued to function quite well after the initial adjustment to the remote working style. Most even saw an increase in performance from workers overall.
WFH works. No matter what anyone says, the data is there.
Which shouldn’t imply that it should be the only option. IMO, having mandatory return to office, or hybrid being the only available “work from home” (which it isn’t really WFH)… isn’t acceptable to me; but that’s all that many workplaces are offering.
I understand that you don’t like it, and you don’t want it, and you don’t understand why people do. That’s fine. Everyone’s reason for wanting work from home is different and I won’t imply that everyone wants it for the same reasons. So that’s a more individual issue than anything… but not even having the option? That not good.
Please support people right to choose where they get their job done.
You get downvoted a lot, but I understand you, I think.
I don’t have the need to see people, and it feels extremely comfortable to just stay home and save the time it takes to and from the office (and the food is cheaper around home).
But days I am in the office or at company events are also very satisfying and I basically overcompensate by talking to people all day. It completely drains my energy and I don’t need any other interaction in the evening. Still I like it. So I somewhat miss the in-office work, but also not.
Well for the social aspect I understand people not wanting. Or if their home there is noises or other people distracting or interrupting.
But for the rest unless you need something specific that is only available there, home is much better.
More time for you not wasted commuting.
Easier to adapt the schedule to your needs, including personal errands on dead time or simply moving the schedule as needed as long as you work same time and you can connect the meetings or whatever at the right time all is fine.
You can save money on food/drinks and even eat food just cooked if times allow it.
If you have to be on call on certain weird hours you already have everything at home.
Less stressed out if you are those that hate people looking while you work.
Less distractions by other people just passing by if you live alone or nobody bothers you in your room/office.
And other stuff probably.
Of course there are jobs this is not possible or have security concerns. Or people that have small places / noisy places / other stuff or people bothering them at home. Then yeah an office could be better.
If staying at home is what is keeping you from being social and you approach connection to people as a study to be social then you are doing social wrong. Deeply wrong.
TBH I dont really like Homeoffice. Im not a social person and Homeoffice would make it even worse. I dont actually get why people love to stay home all week. It just feels wrong to me.
I’m not at work to make friends. I’m at work to make enough money to survive.
Ill never understand anything other than this. Like im not an asshole to my coworkers, I still talk to them from time to time, but ultimately im at work to make the green paper, I just want to do my thing and leave that hell.
Right, I’m nice to them. I don’t refuse to talk to them at all, but I’m just not there to socialize. I’m not interested in talking about my kid or sports or movies or anything like that with people at work. You have to walk on eggshells anyway in case you say something that offends someone’s political or social sensibilities. And I live in Indiana, which means I can’t say the things I want to say when some asshole Republican in the office doesn’t care about work etiquette. So I just keep my earbuds in.
I guess that’s just where people are different, I go to work, to work and socialize. But I do still love my 2 days of wfh. I’m from EU tho
Yup. You can make friends at work but the ability to make friends should be beyond people who you are forced to interact with for survival.
story checks out.
Abso fucking lutely.
If you are not social, that means you are disincentivized to practice social interaction. That means you have a hard time socializing to not feel lonely when you do feel so.
I have always felt lonely as hell. And since I was not fucking stepping out to keep relationships alive and practice human interaction, I dug myself deeper into this hole. Now I cant even fucking make friends.
I would love to stay home and chill out. But I know Im wasting away in this virgin hell every single day.
I mean I am not social either, but I wouldn’t go back to the office just because I lack social interaction I would rather take up some hobbies that take me among people.
Also a huge benefit for me is that the time I would spend commuting I spend walking my dog instead.
not to mention I get up when I get up, absolute freedom.
the downside is lack of separation between work and home since I can technically work anytime I want.
There are many ways to socialize beyond work. I have a few work friends but I have many more friends with deeper connections whom I chose to stay in touch with outside of work.
Work friends will always have an essence of “if I didn’t have to interact with you every day I probably wouldn’t seek you out on my own” and many of them are very aware of it.
You’re entitled to want to work from the office. I don’t think anyone in the “I want to work from home” camp has ever said or implied that WFH should be the only option.
The key argument from the WFH people is that, you should have the choice to work from wherever works best for you. No questions asked.
I know plenty of people who want to be in office all day, and they believe that helps them (I have no idea if it does or not and I have no data to say either way). I respect that choice. You should be able to work from the office if you wish.
The WFH advocates just want it to be a personal choice whether you work from an office or from home. It shouldn’t be something that everyone is forced to do, one way or the other.
For me, the cost savings alone from my commute, both financially, and in terms of time, are huge when working from home. The pandemic demonstrated that working from home is 100% viable. Many companies continued to function quite well after the initial adjustment to the remote working style. Most even saw an increase in performance from workers overall.
WFH works. No matter what anyone says, the data is there.
Which shouldn’t imply that it should be the only option. IMO, having mandatory return to office, or hybrid being the only available “work from home” (which it isn’t really WFH)… isn’t acceptable to me; but that’s all that many workplaces are offering.
I understand that you don’t like it, and you don’t want it, and you don’t understand why people do. That’s fine. Everyone’s reason for wanting work from home is different and I won’t imply that everyone wants it for the same reasons. So that’s a more individual issue than anything… but not even having the option? That not good.
Please support people right to choose where they get their job done.
Oh look, a micro middle manager trying to justify their role is lost.
He’s just expressing his opinion lol he’s not demanding everyone return to the office
I dont actually get why people love to stay home all week. It just feels wrong to me.it is bad faith arguing their opinion at everyone else’s opinion.
That’s not what “bad faith” means.
Or “arguing”.
You get downvoted a lot, but I understand you, I think.
I don’t have the need to see people, and it feels extremely comfortable to just stay home and save the time it takes to and from the office (and the food is cheaper around home).
But days I am in the office or at company events are also very satisfying and I basically overcompensate by talking to people all day. It completely drains my energy and I don’t need any other interaction in the evening. Still I like it. So I somewhat miss the in-office work, but also not.
Well for the social aspect I understand people not wanting. Or if their home there is noises or other people distracting or interrupting.
But for the rest unless you need something specific that is only available there, home is much better.
More time for you not wasted commuting.
Easier to adapt the schedule to your needs, including personal errands on dead time or simply moving the schedule as needed as long as you work same time and you can connect the meetings or whatever at the right time all is fine.
You can save money on food/drinks and even eat food just cooked if times allow it.
If you have to be on call on certain weird hours you already have everything at home.
Less stressed out if you are those that hate people looking while you work.
Less distractions by other people just passing by if you live alone or nobody bothers you in your room/office.
And other stuff probably.
Of course there are jobs this is not possible or have security concerns. Or people that have small places / noisy places / other stuff or people bothering them at home. Then yeah an office could be better.
If staying at home is what is keeping you from being social and you approach connection to people as a study to be social then you are doing social wrong. Deeply wrong.
You are probably a normal person, but just shy or too anxious without your team