Let’s put some life into this sub. I don’t think degrowth is possible under capitalism because the imperative to degrow contradicts the capitalist drive for the creation of value (valorization) which must always grow under capitalism’

  • @bouh
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    110 months ago

    Wars and crisis are degrowth that happens constantly and they are definitely not socialists. Unless sharing the loss and pain is the socialist part I guess?

    • MambabasaOP
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      210 months ago

      Degrowth isn’t the same as a shrinking of economy due to war and crisis. It is the intentional slowdown of the economy towards very specific ends: less work, less consumption, more welfare, etc.

      • @bouh
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        010 months ago

        That’s not degrowth then. That’s the repurpose of the economy. Definanciarisation would be a better term IMO. Or people oriented economy.

        As I said, growth is an illusion for people to believe the system will benefit the poor as well as the rich. If they believe it, they can’t wish for degrowth, because they understand very well who will suffer from the decrease of growth.

        • MambabasaOP
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          210 months ago

          Of course that’s degrowth. That’s the accepted definition among degrowthers. Degrowth is about benefiting the poor as well. Stop talking out of your asshole.