China has lashed out at Germany after its foreign minister called Xi Jinping a “dictator” and summoned Berlin’s ambassador for a dressing down, in the latest flaring of tensions with a western democratic power over how the Chinese leader is described overseas.

    • @[email protected]
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      Probably the antiracists. You should wonder if you’re on the right side when you are promoting and supporting racism.

        • @[email protected]
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          The Winnie the Pooh meme about Xi is just racism. I don’t care if you think he’s a dictator.

          • @unphazed
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            Not racist at all. It’s against one person. Trump’s face is seen on an orange all the time. No one is calling for racism. He just looks like a damn orange.

              • @[email protected]
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                If only Obama was depicted like that, yes.

                But it is commonly used to depict black people in general.

                While nobody uses Winnie the Pooh to depict Chinese people, only their dictator.

            • @[email protected]
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              There’s a big difference here.

              Is Trump’s skin naturally orange? Is there a long history of oppressing white people in the US and other NATO countries?

              Just because the Winnie the Pooh meme didn’t originate as a racist symbol doesn’t mean that it isn’t used to propagate racism and sinophobia.

              • eltimablo
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                361 year ago

                Just because the Winnie the Pooh meme isn’t actually racist doesn’t mean I’m not going to call it racist in a pathetic attempt to establish a fake moral high ground over people who have arguments I can’t counter

                There, I fixed it for you.

                • @[email protected]
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                  -171 year ago

                  Projecting much? Care to explain how it isn’t racist or damaging with an argument other than “nuh-uh”?

                  • eltimablo
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                    71 year ago

                    Insulting someone doesn’t make it racist just because the other person is a different race from you.

                    Also, the meme was started by Chinese people.

              • @unphazed
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                241 year ago

                Xi isn’t in the US and his country isn’t part of NATO. Political cartoons are as old as time. They poke fun at the individual, not their descent. By trying to make it more you’re arguing for it to be censored. He has feelings (maybe), but he has gone so far as to attempt to censor the cartoon from his own country. Not because he believes it is racist, but because his opinion is that he doesn’t like it. Streisand Effect of course, it gets used more. I think Xi does remarkably look like Pooh. Do other Asian persons? No. There isn’t an innocence about it. Xi feels bad by it, people use it to make him angry. He is a dictator with lots of power so people use the one tool they have to attempt to fight that power - a fucking cartoon bear.

                • @[email protected]
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                  -121 year ago

                  I think you misinterpreted part of what I’m saying. The use of the meme in Taiwan and Hong Kong were political dissent, not racism.

                  The use of the meme in NATO countries is racist due to their history of racism and because this is one of the tools these governments use to convince you that China is your enemy and you should support military actions against them before their military becomes stronger than that of the US and they lose their monopoly on international power and subsequently their power to bully the rest of the world.

                  Before you dismiss this argument by saying it’s just because Xi doesn’t like the meme, where did you get this information? From what I’ve seen the Chinese government has not responded and the reasoning behind the ban is purely speculative. Sure, I believe they banned the comparison as it was the basis of geopolitical dissent, but to claim it’s because a world leader who gets insulted frequently and in worse ways has thin skin is a stretch. He has bigger worries than Westerners tweeting at him.

                  If you want a tool to fight the power of dictators, you’d be better served focusing on organizing the citizens of your own country against the powers that work against their interests at home. They point you toward foreign leaders and say “look, they’re worse” so you won’t criticize the shit job your own “representatives” are doing at home.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    The use of the meme in NATO countries is racist due to their history of racism

                    This isn’t how that works. And even if it were, then it would be racist everywhere due to everywhere’s history of racism.

              • @[email protected]
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                What? Winnie the Pooh is from a British cartoon…Asian people aren’t described as “orange” by racists. I don’t think you know the origin of this meme

                Please illustrate how a British cartoon character is a racist caricature of xi? Is Barack Obama a tiger?

              • @AngryCommieKender
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                We are all one race. Human. You guys trying to claim that you are a different (read: superior) race are the racists.

                • @[email protected]
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                  You can’t just wish the impacts of systemic racism away with good vibes. This is unrealistic and sounds like it comes from a place of privilege that has never experienced the impacts of racism. Biologically, race isn’t real. Socially, it is real and very much has a real impact on people.

                  I don’t know if your comment was intended to be directed at me? If you think I’m being racist by acknowledging the material impacts of racism and the realistic threat it poses, you may need to read more about racism.

                  • @AngryCommieKender
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                    Yeah it was directed at you. You think that Chinese people, who are human, are a superior race that deserves no criticism. Racist as fuck. I come from the only country in the world that even is figuring out how to deal with racism, cause we aren’t from a single ancestral tribe, and we have been forced to actually start figuring it out. As I said, we are humans, and that is where you need to start to make any progress. Stop with your Chinese superiority complex, and learn to take criticism.

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            The Taiwanese use the meme all the time. Obviously not because it looks like Xi in particular and especially because of fragile censoring, but because they like to be racist against themselves. That must be it.

            Calling Trump a guinea pig is probably also considered racist in lemmygrad.

            • @[email protected]
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              and especially because of fragile censoring

              You think these memes are censored? Lol, you live in an authoritarian shithole that brainwashes you with this stupid shit. Use your brain.

            • @[email protected]
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              Taiwan is where the former Republic of China retreated after being defeated by the People’s Republic of China. The censorship of Xi=Pooh in China isn’t rooted in racism, it’s rooted in the political conflicts between the ROC and PRC. China censors these comparisons because they are used by opponents to attack the government. You don’t have to agree with their methods to understand why they would want to do this. Censoring realistic threats to the ruling government is a common practice in all nations.

              The racist aspect originates from how the meme is used in Western circles where there is a long history of racism towards minorities and the enemies of the US as well as a long history of sinophobia.

              If your understanding of history, racism, and their opinions of Trump are so shallow, maybe lurking Lemmygrad to learn why users from this instance act so aggressively towards racism and war-mongering propaganda would be helpful.

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              Dehumanizing people through racism is a well established method the US has historically used when manufacturing consent to go to war among its people. Look at depictions of Germans and Japanese in WWII. Look at depictions of Koreans, the Vietnamese, Afghans, and Iraqis during the invasions of their countries.

              Just because its origins weren’t racist doesn’t mean it hasn’t taken on a racist meaning. Sinophobia is rooted in racism and ignorance.

              • @theuberwalrus
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                It’s one guy, not a caricature of Chinese people

                Edit to mention that the guy in question is a dictator

                • @[email protected]
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                  Right, because if you allow racist tropes a little bit of leeway they won’t become normalized and propagate over time.

                  How has voting in your bastion of democracy been working out for you? Did you get to vote to go to war? It’s not like your leaders are any less authoritarian.

                  • eltimablo
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                    241 year ago

                    I’m allowed to criticize my government without being hauled off to fucking jail, how’s that for freedom?

              • @jcit878
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                woah wtf you are being ridiculously racist. get the fuck out of here with that racist offensive stereotyping

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            Whoa whoa saying Chinese are yellow isn’t cool. Dat’s racist, with Pooh the color isn’t relevant