I just realised, I can’t post anything on lemmy.ml

So, I checked https://lemmy.ml/modlog, there’s a new moderator.

All posts and comments talking about China, Jinping, Russia, and Putin have been deleted and users banned

  • @[email protected]
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    1011 year ago

    Fuck these tankies man. I’m as leftist as they come and I HATE what these people are doing to the cause. We want healthcare and equal rights, and these loonies are dragging us all down with their fascination for those horrible fascist regimes (it takes 2 braincells to realize the CCP is 1984 incarnate).

    • @[email protected]
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      311 year ago

      I’m at the same time horrified and fascinated by them. I saw a comment that accused NATO of causing he war to “drag on”. When I brought up that Russia could just leave, I got people unironically replying that Ukraine was the aggressor in the war and that it was Ukraine committing genocide and attacks on civilians. I understand that I could be trapped in a western bubble… but really? I didn’t bother asking for a source because I’m sure the only source for that misinformation is the Kremlin. What’s crazy is that you would think the Russian shills would be spread out trying to infect other communities with disinformation, instead they all flock to this echo chamber apparently, so it seems likely that they genuinely believe this stuff.

      • @Eldritch
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        41 year ago

        They know it’s bullshit. The United States in this instance is doing the largely correct thing. However historically that hasn’t always been the case. Were usually the ones attacking and destabilizing other countries. South America, Hawaii, the middle east, Korea, Vietnam and on and on. Anyone that opposed US homogene as pushed by wealthy oligarchic fascist throughout American history. Has historically met and unfortunate end.

        Realistically in this instance Russia is much closer to what the United States has been historically. Than they are any Ally of leninist regimes. But to leninists. They are the enemy of their enemy and an ally of convenience. Because overall outside of World War II etc. The United States has been the biggest constant enemy to much the rest of the world.

    • @orrk
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      71 year ago

      1984 was based on the Soviet Union

      • @LeChapeau
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        • @[email protected]
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          71 year ago

          Yeah, he was basically warning Socialists off getting in bed with Stalinists and similar regimes just because their causes appeared to align. The cure must not be worse than the disease.

        • @orrk
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          -11 year ago

          i would argue that he saw the soviets as the bigger threat at the time, considering the Nazis got beat a few years beforehand and a lot of the left in the west were fanboying the Soviet Union at the time (1947-1948)

          • @Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow
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            -11 year ago

            He was a socialist which contrary to American reactionary rhetoric is incompatible with communism.

          • @Buffalox
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            -21 year ago

            You are missing the point of the book IMO. The threat is not necessarily external.

            It was pretty easy to see totalitarianism as a dangerous global trend at the time, since it was in Germany, Italy, Spain, Soviet Union, China, Eastern Europe. Apart from Eastern Europe, these countries all “chose” it for themselves.

            • @orrk
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              I never said anything about the threat coming from the soviets, after all it was never about Russia invading the UK, but rather he modelled the dystopian government based on the inner workings of the Soviet Union, because he witnessed it during his time in Spain before the Stalin aligned republic and the anarchist split.

      • @uis
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        31 year ago

        Modern capitalist Russia is closer to 1984 than Soviet Union. Fuck Putin.

        • @orrk
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          -11 year ago

          no, fundamentally the only thing that really changed is who the inner and outer party is

          • @uis
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            21 year ago

            No. For one SU did not have oligarchs. Also SU had really good(for its time) healthcare and education, while Putin’s mafia closed or defunded few orders of magnitude more hospitals and clinics, than opened, many schools work in 2 shifts, some even 3. UR has party in it’s name, but it lacks ideology. “Steal money here, spend it in the West, luxury for members, misery and poverty for everyone else” hardly counts as one, it is literally description of mafia.

            • @orrk
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              11 year ago

              For one SU did not have oligarchs. where did the Oligarchs come from? the first wave of oligarchs came from the Russian political elite, basically claiming what was “theirs” during the communist government, now sure, most subsequent Oligarchs came about because Yeltsin and later Putin wanted to strengthen their own supporter base among the oligarchs, but all we are seeing here is what used to happen totally inside the government (because the government was the primary economic power) is now happening in a hybrid approach of government+“market”.

              • @uis
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                11 year ago

                where did the Oligarchs come from?

                From organized crime groups.

                the first wave of oligarchs came from the Russian political elite, basically claiming what was “theirs” during the communist government

                Yep. Oligarchs came into existance after union collapse. And usually not political elite, but beaurocratic elite also called nomenclature.

    • @assassin_aragorn
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      -51 year ago

      I’m a progressive who thought I was moderate for the longest time because tankie rhetoric on the left. I fully recognize now though that the tankies are a laughable minority. They’re just a bunch of loud people on the Internet.

    • @KillAllPoorPeople
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      -71 year ago

      You ironically have a post saying that Muslims are culturally terrorists and all Muslims need to fall in line with French cultural authoritarianism. Totally not tankie behavior, just regular normal, “leftist as they come” behavior, right?

      https://lemmy.world/comment/2941761

      You sound like another run of the mill racist, bigoted liberal who wants to smear the leftist label by LARP’ing as one for the sole purpose of attacking leftists.

      • @jcit878
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        31 year ago

        this thread is just you stalking people and copying their comments. can you do me? maybe the one where i enjoy watching mobiks getting blown up in drone videos, that seemed to upset a few tankies

      • @Buffalox
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        1 year ago

        Muslim is not a race, just as Socialism is not a race. The idea that religion deserves special treatment needs to die.