Conservativism isn’t a set of policies or ideologies, it’s the notion that you are good so therefore whatever you want is also good. It is narcissism wraped in a flimsy coat of stoic resistance to change. The facade falls away the very moment any conservative is affected personally by any particular issue.
Pick any ostensibly conservative issue, and you’ll find conservatives flipping on that issue whenever it is convenient. And that’s not because all conservatives are hypocrites, it’s because all conservatives believe that they, as individuals, are the final arbiters of right and wrong. They believe that they can determine what is good and what is evil with absolute certainty at any level of nuance.
That’s why they will oppose abortion rights, and then have their own abortions without a hint of self-awareness. That’s how they can spin yarns of their hardworking immigrant parents or surviving with the help of social safety nets, and then pull up the ladder behind them for the next generation. It’s how fiscal conservatives increase spending and raise taxes for most people while decrying spending on critical infrastructure and foreign aid.
That’s why a nutjob like RFK Jr. sounds like a conservative, even though he wouldn’t use the term to describe himself. The man doesn’t have principles, he has a list of conspiracy theories that he uses to drum up attention.
Cutting taxes, removing regulation and oversight of the private sector, revoking civil rights for “others”, disenfranchisement, white ethnonationalism mixed with Christofascism, enforcement of social hierarchies with white rich men at the top, suicide via global climate change…
So you see, you’re wrong. Conservatives have plenty of policy they’re consistent about.
I’m trying to not get on either side because I felt meatbridge made some well reasoned points. I do tend to lean with no1riven on the hypocrisy of suggesting conservatives think the are good therefore they are right. I’ve observed people on the left with the same hyper charged conviction so I don’t see how it’s a strong point.
Single-issue anti-vaxxer voters might trust him more than they trust Trump. (and none of them were going to vote for Biden anyway, so probably at worst a wash for Biden)
Well, the D’s know the name of the game is beat Trump, that’s how biden got nominated, nobody actually liked him. They’ll vote for Biden no matter what just to make sure Trump doesn’t win.
The target demographic for this guy are Trump independents, that is, the people that won him the election in the rust belt in 2016, people who lean Democrat but were sick of the politicians and their constant bullshitting. So it’s likely RFK is a way to spoil Trump, not the D’s.
I think it might be hard to predict exactly but I I am bit with you. Those right leaning independents that don’t like Trump are quite unlikely to vote for him regardless. But that known name may put Biden as their second choice.
All of Kennedy’s platform positions are firmly right-wing… and so is all of his support. He should have been part of the Republican debate, he’d have fit right in.
Such an obvious spoiler. Who is going to vote for him?
Old, confused Democrats? He’s not really leftist at all. Everything I’ve heard about him makes me feel like he’s a Republican.
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Conservativism isn’t a set of policies or ideologies, it’s the notion that you are good so therefore whatever you want is also good. It is narcissism wraped in a flimsy coat of stoic resistance to change. The facade falls away the very moment any conservative is affected personally by any particular issue.
Pick any ostensibly conservative issue, and you’ll find conservatives flipping on that issue whenever it is convenient. And that’s not because all conservatives are hypocrites, it’s because all conservatives believe that they, as individuals, are the final arbiters of right and wrong. They believe that they can determine what is good and what is evil with absolute certainty at any level of nuance.
That’s why they will oppose abortion rights, and then have their own abortions without a hint of self-awareness. That’s how they can spin yarns of their hardworking immigrant parents or surviving with the help of social safety nets, and then pull up the ladder behind them for the next generation. It’s how fiscal conservatives increase spending and raise taxes for most people while decrying spending on critical infrastructure and foreign aid.
That’s why a nutjob like RFK Jr. sounds like a conservative, even though he wouldn’t use the term to describe himself. The man doesn’t have principles, he has a list of conspiracy theories that he uses to drum up attention.
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And yet they’re right. What policy have conservatives been consistent on?
Cutting taxes, removing regulation and oversight of the private sector, revoking civil rights for “others”, disenfranchisement, white ethnonationalism mixed with Christofascism, enforcement of social hierarchies with white rich men at the top, suicide via global climate change…
So you see, you’re wrong. Conservatives have plenty of policy they’re consistent about.
Had me going for a second.
I’m trying to not get on either side because I felt meatbridge made some well reasoned points. I do tend to lean with no1riven on the hypocrisy of suggesting conservatives think the are good therefore they are right. I’ve observed people on the left with the same hyper charged conviction so I don’t see how it’s a strong point.
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In other words, you can’t actually name a single policy.
Wow, I just upvoted you and your vote went down, could be a lag in votes while I typed but concerning
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Single-issue anti-vaxxer voters might trust him more than they trust Trump. (and none of them were going to vote for Biden anyway, so probably at worst a wash for Biden)
This is my dad. He doesn’t like trump but still suffers from all kinds of other anti-progrsssive brainwashing.
He thinks RFK is a brave outsider.
He also voted for Perot, so take that for what it’s worth.
Well, the D’s know the name of the game is beat Trump, that’s how biden got nominated, nobody actually liked him. They’ll vote for Biden no matter what just to make sure Trump doesn’t win.
The target demographic for this guy are Trump independents, that is, the people that won him the election in the rust belt in 2016, people who lean Democrat but were sick of the politicians and their constant bullshitting. So it’s likely RFK is a way to spoil Trump, not the D’s.
Hopefully Republicants.
He has massive support among the wingnut right. The Ben Garrison/Kill Fauci/J6 is a Hoax crowd.
Morons.
“But aren’t all the morons already voting for Trump?” I hear you say.
No. There are always more morons.
He will vote for himself, and his mother is still around and will probably vote for him.
So I am expecting him to get exactly 2 votes.
An unfortunately significant number of people.
Really? I have not seen any evidence of that.
I think it might be hard to predict exactly but I I am bit with you. Those right leaning independents that don’t like Trump are quite unlikely to vote for him regardless. But that known name may put Biden as their second choice.
All of Kennedy’s platform positions are firmly right-wing… and so is all of his support. He should have been part of the Republican debate, he’d have fit right in.
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Except the two of the largest issues of the decade?
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No, Republicans will lie about their positions to get into office. See:
Susan Collins
Kyrsten Sinema
Amy Coney Barrett
Brett Kavanaugh
Which is like what Trump supporters care?
The guy is crazy, but that doesn’t seem to be a problem anymore.
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Democrats who don’t think Biden is far enough to the right. They’ll still blame progressives if Biden loses to Trump, though.
How do you do fellow ensign?