Hexbear was an absolute shitshow when they defederated from it so I don’t blame them. It’s now merely a shitmonologue. I’m pissed about dbzero, though. Is the word filter a real thing? Because I’ve been baiting people into acting out their malignant racist fantasies through promises of word filters and I’d hate to know that they exist in some capacity.
I think they just ublocked the dbzero. Or at least I saw a post about it recently saying they’ve unblocked the piracy communities. I assume that’s what you’re referring to.
I got the impression that it wasn’t exactly unprompted and that they had been being overwhelmed with take down requests. Like it or not, Lemmy instances do have to follow the laws of their local jurisdiction. Which means responding to take down requests when applicable. The post suggested that until they had tools to better manage that, they had to block them, but have unblocked them now which implies that they have those tools.
Function first. Hexbear users on hexbear aren’t used to responding to people without reaction image barrages or endless effectively semantical arguments, and most people outside hexbear aren’t fans of that. Defederating the troll instance is just downright reasonable, not even getting into politics. They’ve chilled a bit since the initial excitement over federation. A. Bit.
Edit: Took a while to take effect but now we can see that they remove the long form of fag and “hard r”.
Furthermore the same words got censored on my comments from lemmy.world AND sh.itjust.works, so my guess is that the filtering comes actually from lemmy.ml. Other instances may have a different list.
Which makes no sense. How are the words picked? Is there a sliding scale, or an objectionable meter somewhere? Who decided that b!tch should be censored, but not cunt or skank?
What ideology are you talking about? Sure, you might just be a salty liberal or propertarian, but such vaguery could easily be a dogwhistle for something sinister.
They moved to Nostr since there they can’t be defederated and shut their Lemmy instance down, I bet they’ll later claim that us or the ADL shut them down because conspiracy theories are juicier.
Technically they’re far left (Tankies) but they don’t act that much different from far right in terms of behavior (such as their abusive and disruptive trolling).
Ah yes, clearly nobody could actually be a communist (notwithstanding the existence of the CPC and others)? I’m not sure what your argument is supposed to be… the CIA murders them all?
I actually dig it a bit. They’re not really censoring themselves, they’re still talking about corn and seggs just in a way the app doesn’t yet recognize. Take that advertisers!
Yeah, they’re literally bypassing being censored. They’re continuing to talk about the shit that the company doesn’t want them to. It’s the opposite of what people are bitching about.
The term “ungood” also lets you talk about bad things but that doesn’t make it not newspeak. The corporate sanitizing and infantilizing of speech is not a good thing. It’s not the teen’s problem though, it’s the corporations and their desire for a sanitized public square they can plaster ads over.
Ungood was given by the state. This is stuff people are coming up with in defiance of the state/corporation/censorer. That distinction matters, I think.
Can’t stand it. Censoring yourself so some random ass company can make more ad revenue.
Fuck that.
Come to Lemmy. We’ll let you say “fuck”.
But not removed. Have to say B!tch instead…
Bitch?
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Lmao nice we can say the word bitch. Based as fuck, bitch
LMFAO, which instances ban words so I can avoid making accounts there?
lemmy.ml is definitely one
I made my account in blahaj zone which is the best uncensored instance haha!
Yeah bitch
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You called?
Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits fart turd and twat
Unless you’re on Lemmy.world.
What’s the deal with .world?
They censor no-no words, you’ll occasionally see removed in a comment from a Lemmy.world account.
They’re also emotional children that ban or defederate anyone who disagrees with them.
Basically, they’re reddit v2.
Hexbear was an absolute shitshow when they defederated from it so I don’t blame them. It’s now merely a shitmonologue. I’m pissed about dbzero, though. Is the word filter a real thing? Because I’ve been baiting people into acting out their malignant racist fantasies through promises of word filters and I’d hate to know that they exist in some capacity.
I think they just ublocked the dbzero. Or at least I saw a post about it recently saying they’ve unblocked the piracy communities. I assume that’s what you’re referring to.
That’s genuinely good news. The unprompted piracy censorship was just weird.
I got the impression that it wasn’t exactly unprompted and that they had been being overwhelmed with take down requests. Like it or not, Lemmy instances do have to follow the laws of their local jurisdiction. Which means responding to take down requests when applicable. The post suggested that until they had tools to better manage that, they had to block them, but have unblocked them now which implies that they have those tools.
Yeah I’m torn here, absolutely fuck hexbear and Lemmygrad, but also, fuck that heavy censorship garbage right back to Facebook where it belongs.
Function first. Hexbear users on hexbear aren’t used to responding to people without reaction image barrages or endless effectively semantical arguments, and most people outside hexbear aren’t fans of that. Defederating the troll instance is just downright reasonable, not even getting into politics. They’ve chilled a bit since the initial excitement over federation. A. Bit.
The word filter is very much a thing, yes.
I’m going to need someone from .world to reply with a few examples of censored words to be sure. Anything from ****** to ****.
Let’s go!
Shit, fuck, ass, asshole, cunt, pussy, vagina, dick, cock, penis, prick, sex, screw, shag, bitch, bastard, bastich, damn, god, fag, removed, motherfucker, unclefucker, horsefucker, suicide, kill yourself, retard, retarded, nigga, removed, Margaret Thatcher.
Let me know if I missed a spot.
Edit: Took a while to take effect but now we can see that they remove the long form of fag and “hard r”.
Furthermore the same words got censored on my comments from lemmy.world AND sh.itjust.works, so my guess is that the filtering comes actually from lemmy.ml. Other instances may have a different list.
Isn’t science fun?
The r-tard one is a notable example.
This post is on lemmy.world so you can observe what is censored from my comment for yourself.
Suicide Dead Kill Terrorism Shit Fuck Ass Piss Dick Pussy Cock Cunt Dildo Rape Motherfucker Porn Transgender Lesbian Gay Bisexual
What do we have now? I left out racist slurs because I don’t feel the need to use those in any typical situation.
Biatch, r-tard, there’s a few others.
bitch & retard?
think i saw cocksucker censored once?
Not like Lemmy doesn’t have a controversial slur filter itself.
Which makes no sense. How are the words picked? Is there a sliding scale, or an objectionable meter somewhere? Who decided that b!tch should be censored, but not cunt or skank?
But that’s about it. And god forbid you have differing ideology
What ideology are you talking about? Sure, you might just be a salty liberal or propertarian, but such vaguery could easily be a dogwhistle for something sinister.
There’s Lemmygrad if you’re that kind of guy… But touching grass is available too.
I see “touch grass”, I recognize a clonal light thinker.
Is the exploding heads instance still alive? There you had some very different opinions.
They moved to Nostr since there they can’t be defederated and shut their Lemmy instance down, I bet they’ll later claim that us or the ADL shut them down because conspiracy theories are juicier.
Oh no! People might challenge my opinions! The horror!
Can you say…all words on Lemmy?
Can you say any phrase from the combination of words on Lemmy?
Fun fact: until not too long ago there was a language filter built right into Lemmy’s source code.
No mandarin allowed?
hexbear begins lighting torches
what is a hexbear?
A far right Lemmy instance.
Technically they’re far left (Tankies) but they don’t act that much different from far right in terms of behavior (such as their abusive and disruptive trolling).
They’re far right cosplaying leftists.
Wait, Hexbear is far right now for checks notes supporting China?
Leftist instance that your instance preemptively defederated from, presumably so you could stay in your echo chamber
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Ah yes, clearly nobody could actually be a communist (notwithstanding the existence of the CPC and others)? I’m not sure what your argument is supposed to be… the CIA murders them all?
There is a language filter still that any admin can put words into.
But it’s not hard coded into the source code
Yes, no predefined list ships in the code, just the ability to add words to the list.
I actually dig it a bit. They’re not really censoring themselves, they’re still talking about corn and seggs just in a way the app doesn’t yet recognize. Take that advertisers!
Yeah, they’re literally bypassing being censored. They’re continuing to talk about the shit that the company doesn’t want them to. It’s the opposite of what people are bitching about.
The term “ungood” also lets you talk about bad things but that doesn’t make it not newspeak. The corporate sanitizing and infantilizing of speech is not a good thing. It’s not the teen’s problem though, it’s the corporations and their desire for a sanitized public square they can plaster ads over.
Yes, exactly. The problem is corporate sanitization not the adapted language norms by teens.
Ungood was given by the state. This is stuff people are coming up with in defiance of the state/corporation/censorer. That distinction matters, I think.
We already have the real words. Censoring yourself is bending over to accept it.
It’s specifically defying the censorship already imposed.