• @SCB
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    9 months ago

    Democrat’s spinelessness

    What you seem mad about here are a small number of Democrats who refuse to get on board for big progressive bills.

    What you’re missing is that those Democrats aren’t spineless, but rather they disagree. Their voters disagree with other Democrats and so pressure their representative to take stances other Democrats oppose.

    This happens because the Democrat party is a coalition party. They don’t move in lockstep as Republicans do, about anything.

    You and I would likely vote for Democrats, given the alternative, and I assure you that we have very different politics. For instance, you see removing the fillibuster as a good way to pass reforms and I see it as a good way to get trans people killed the next time a Republicans commands both gavels.

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      9 months ago

      What you’re missing is that those Democrats aren’t spineless, but rather they disagree.

      If they’re so scared of doing the right thing that they won’t, that’s spinelessness. If they don’t want to do the right thing and will fight against it, I am under no obligation to support them.

      Democrat party

      uh…

      For instance, you see removing the fillibuster as a good way to pass reforms

      And you oppose reform.

      I see it as a good way to get trans people killed the next time a Republicans commands both gavels.

      They’re not going to let the filibuster stop them from doing it if they actually want to do it. They’re not going to find just enough turncoats to keep the filibuster just to defend trans people. This is what I mean about spinelessness. You’re so scared about what Republicans might do in the future that you’re willing to preserve the filibuster, keeping badly needed reforms from happening. If you wanted to have protections for trans people, you would support ending the filibuster so we could put some in place. Republicans are gonna do what they’re gonna do in either case. You’d rather gain nothing first. The more reforms we pass, the more popular policy Republicans will have to muster the political capital to undo before they can make things worse than they are today.

      You’re using a vulnerable minority as a rhetorical shield to defend a procedural nonsense that has been used to hold back human rights from minorities since Jim Crow. A proud tradition for what both you and Joe McCarthy call the Democrat Party.

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        9 months ago

        In genuinely surprised that you put all this effort into a response and zero effort into processing what I said.

        You skip over my actual points and just… ramble

        • @Ensign_Crab
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          09 months ago

          And here we come to the part where a centrist can’t address what a progressive has said and condescendingly dismisses it instead.

          Concession accepted.

          • @SCB
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            09 months ago

            You literally know nothing about me. I explained how reality functions and you threw some weird tantrum over a one-line example.

            Grow up.

            • @Ensign_Crab
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              09 months ago

              I already accepted your concession.

              You don’t have do be more condescending just because you can’t address what I wrote.

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                Thanks for the confirmation that you cannot clear the bar even when it is left on the ground.

                • @Ensign_Crab
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                  19 months ago

                  What can I say. I’m not as good at limbo as you are.