In Gnome’s defense, they also make it really easy to replace or customize the vast majority of things to an almost surprising degree and while their extension SDK is a bit weird with some choices, it’s also fairly friendly to anyone with some JS experience.
I used to not be a fan either, but 44 and 45 have felt pretty good to use with minimal changes. Some of the more recent design guidelines they’ve refined have made a huge difference. I use Dash to Dock, but that’s the only real UX change I use nowadays.
I still dislike the macOS-like launcher menu for apps. But I also don’t care for an application menu or windows 7-style menu so I live with it.
Hmm, disagree here. How to replace the icons, the fonts, the buttons in the header, the positioning of the buttons?
In GNOME thats CSD (client side decoration) and either baked into the apps, or I guess nonexistant. On KDE its SSD and customizable, although mostly broken or worse than breeze.
Gnome Tweaks, dconf UI or cli, or extensions can adjust all of those things, CSD included. I wish it was more baked into the settings, fwiw. One of the first things I do is move the CSD buttons to the macOS location.
I definitely agree the baked-in CSD is annoying at times, but now that Wayland has matured a lot and most apps have adjusted to baked-in CSD along with adding Wayland support, it’s pretty rare to run into problems.
Also… if you’ve only tried gnome recently on Ubuntu, def recommend trying it on debian or another distro that doesn’t drastically change everything about it.
(And of course, all that said, desktop choice is wonderful and no one has to settle for anything, big or small 🙂)
Stock gnome feels a bit slow to me, but I love using it with custom keybinds for launching applications. Making good use of workspaces and multiple monitors makes it even better.
I cannot stand Gnome. I would genuinely prefer to use Bash-only than try to deal with Gnome.
I use the Cinnamon desktop, and Gnome apps and applets occasionally leak into Cinnamon “intact.” They’re easy to spot; the app opens as a large and mostly featureless blank window where all of the controls are crammed up into the top bar. open is all the way to the left, save is all the way to the right. Open and Save are spelled out as words, New and Save As are icons. Most everything else is in a hamburger menu, which usually isn’t much because Gnome eschews menus, settings, configurations, options, or additional functionality. The app does the very middle of the road most normal use case for the task it’s designed for and that is ABSOLUTELY it.
I’m also not on board with the whole rounded corners and bulbous look to everything. Reminds me of that line from The Simpsons: “Okay class, take out your safety pencils and a circle of paper.”
I remember having a good time with windows 8 on a tablet, that is, as long as all of my needs were fulfilled by metro apps. GNOME, one the other hand, I found to be less usable than even Win10 with display scaling.
Every Gnome trend on the Desktop. Perfect for tablets, but it doesnt make sense?
In Gnome’s defense, they also make it really easy to replace or customize the vast majority of things to an almost surprising degree and while their extension SDK is a bit weird with some choices, it’s also fairly friendly to anyone with some JS experience.
I used to not be a fan either, but 44 and 45 have felt pretty good to use with minimal changes. Some of the more recent design guidelines they’ve refined have made a huge difference. I use Dash to Dock, but that’s the only real UX change I use nowadays.
I still dislike the macOS-like launcher menu for apps. But I also don’t care for an application menu or windows 7-style menu so I live with it.
Hmm, disagree here. How to replace the icons, the fonts, the buttons in the header, the positioning of the buttons?
In GNOME thats CSD (client side decoration) and either baked into the apps, or I guess nonexistant. On KDE its SSD and customizable, although mostly broken or worse than breeze.
Gnome Tweaks, dconf UI or cli, or extensions can adjust all of those things, CSD included. I wish it was more baked into the settings, fwiw. One of the first things I do is move the CSD buttons to the macOS location.
I definitely agree the baked-in CSD is annoying at times, but now that Wayland has matured a lot and most apps have adjusted to baked-in CSD along with adding Wayland support, it’s pretty rare to run into problems.
Also… if you’ve only tried gnome recently on Ubuntu, def recommend trying it on debian or another distro that doesn’t drastically change everything about it.
(And of course, all that said, desktop choice is wonderful and no one has to settle for anything, big or small 🙂)
I tried it on Fedora do vanilla too.
I dont know. I have lots of Gnome/Gnome circle/GTK apps I really like
But the desktop? Not yet convinced
Stock gnome feels a bit slow to me, but I love using it with custom keybinds for launching applications. Making good use of workspaces and multiple monitors makes it even better.
I cannot stand Gnome. I would genuinely prefer to use Bash-only than try to deal with Gnome.
I use the Cinnamon desktop, and Gnome apps and applets occasionally leak into Cinnamon “intact.” They’re easy to spot; the app opens as a large and mostly featureless blank window where all of the controls are crammed up into the top bar. open is all the way to the left, save is all the way to the right. Open and Save are spelled out as words, New and Save As are icons. Most everything else is in a hamburger menu, which usually isn’t much because Gnome eschews menus, settings, configurations, options, or additional functionality. The app does the very middle of the road most normal use case for the task it’s designed for and that is ABSOLUTELY it.
I’m also not on board with the whole rounded corners and bulbous look to everything. Reminds me of that line from The Simpsons: “Okay class, take out your safety pencils and a circle of paper.”
I cannot stand bash haha. Its interface is so sad and without any colors. Its nice for TTYs and all, but fish is better for UX.
Funny how things like nala dont even work in a TTY as they use too fancy features.
Is it actually good for tablets now?
I remember having a good time with windows 8 on a tablet, that is, as long as all of my needs were fulfilled by metro apps. GNOME, one the other hand, I found to be less usable than even Win10 with display scaling.