• @toasteecup
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    Quick clarification, are you calling Jews white?

    • queermunist she/her
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      I’m calling white Jews white.

      White-passing Asian Jews have conditional white privilege that disappears as soon as someone realizes they’re Jewish, and obviously African Jews never get to be white, but white Jews are totally white and like many whites they steal valor from non-white people to make themselves feel less guilty about their white privilege.

      Look at Israel’s businesses and politics; you’ll see mostly white faces. Israel is a white colony run by white people. Truly the 51st state.

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        The same could be said of the white portions lgtbq+ community, but you don’t see this Jew playing that card. I would appreciate if you didn’t insult me in such a way just as I try my best to give you that respect.

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          I don’t deny that I’m white or that I have white privilege. I would appreciate if white Jews would do the same.

          EDIT Actually, imagine if I tried to claim I wasn’t white because I’m queer. Imagine how fucking absurd that would be.

          • @toasteecup
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            Too bad Jews have legitimate claim to being a minority. As Jews, we can develop diseases that specifically only affect Jews, an example being tay-sachs and another being the “sensitive Jew stomach”.

            Something else to consider is the enemy we have in common, Nazis, would love for you and everyone else to think that white passing Jews are just white because that helps to diminish Jewish culture and make us nothing. It helps remove our sense of self and belonging just like the christofacists and their “pray away the gay camps” do for your community.

            I hope this message gives you reason to reconsider and cause to do some research into what I’m saying.

            As for my white privilege, I hate but acknowledge that I have it and I gladly use it to help out anyone I can could needs a hand. Be an ally for us Jews just as most of us are for your community. Sorry for the others, bad apples in every batch I’m afraid.

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              Too bad Jews have legitimate claim to being a minority. As Jews, we can develop diseases that specifically only affect Jews, an example being tay-sachs and another being the “sensitive Jew stomach”.

              Actually, fun fact: Tay-Sachs actually can also affect French Canadians of southeastern Quebec, the Old Order Amish of Pennsylvania, and the Cajuns of southern Louisiana. Weird, huh?

              Also, I have no idea why you think this is relevant to anything.

              Something else to consider is the enemy we have in common, Nazis, would love for you and everyone else to think that white passing Jews are just white because that helps to diminish Jewish culture and make us nothing. It helps remove our sense of self and belonging just like the christofacists and their “pray away the gay camps” do for your community.

              Nazis are pretty explicitly the ones that insist that white Jews aren’t white. Go ask one, they’ll tell you all about it.

              Broader white culture, though, has absorbed white Jews the same way it absorbed white Irish people and white Italians and is well on its way to absorbing white latinos too. Whiteness is a very adaptable ideology that is constantly changing to preserve itself, and has no trouble accepting new ethnicities into the white racial group.

              As for my white privilege, I hate but acknowledge that I have it and I gladly use it to help out anyone I can could needs a hand. Be an ally for us Jews just as most of us are for your community. Sorry for the others, bad apples in every batch I’m afraid.

              Okay, but then what was the point of this discussion? If white Jews have white privilege, then I don’t see a reason why Israel can’t be identified as a white settler colony. Again, look at the positions of power and wealth in Israel and you’ll mostly see white faces. There’s a reason for that.