Sen. John Fetterman (D-Penn.) called some of his colleagues’ quickness to blame Israel for the hospital blast in Gaza “disturbing” in a statement Wednesday.

“It’s truly disturbing that Members of Congress rushed to blame Israel for the hospital tragedy in Gaza,” Fetterman said in a post on X, formerly Twitter.

  • HubertManne
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    11 year ago

    This type of blast would murder the building. Three of your dots at least are not things we know or we know the opposite.

    • @kava
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      31 year ago

      there are different types of bombs you can use with JDAM. It doesn’t have to be a massive 2,000lb bomb like the MK84 (of which Israel has a large stockpile of)

      the MK82 for example is also compatible which is 500 lbs or the 1,000lb variant MK83. here’s a vid of MK82.

      that could plausibly do damage similar to what we saw, especially if we vary the elevation at which it blows up. and all of them would sound similar to each other to someone on the ground

      main point is that “there’s a small crater” isn’t definitive evidence for “israel didn’t bomb”

      • HubertManne
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        11 year ago

        Sure evidence is never going to be for certain but I will say that again because your bullet points have things that are from straight out lies (the fake facebook posting) Any information from you is suspect. I mean we could go all the way to maybe the pilot dropped a grenade.

        • @kava
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          which ones are straight up lies? enlighten me

          i tried very deliberately to only make statements in the bullet points that i could back up.

          we can disagree about my logic but something either happened or it didn’t.

          • HubertManne
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            11 year ago

            These definately

            The majority of the Palestinian rockets do not have the payload to do so much damage
            IDF Digital Spokesman posted a tweet admitting responsibility for the attack, only to quickly delete it
            
            
            • @kava
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              21 year ago

              Hananya Naftali is the name of the spokesman. here’s a link to his twitter

              this was the tweet that made immediately after the hospital event go ahead and look it up, it was widely reported on

              he then posted this after deleting the original

              now go search for a reuters article about the bombing that was live before he posted his original tweet. i couldn’t find one, personally. although to be fair, i didn’t look very hard


              you can read more about palestinian rocket arsenal. it’s not secret classified information

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_arsenal

              their most common rocket is the Qassam, this is the one they produce themselves

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket

              the biggest payload is 20kg

              we’re talking about a bomb in the 250-500lb range. it just isn’t enough.

              they do have stronger rockets, but they are fewer because they cannot produce them entirely on their own. that’s where iranian rockets come in

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fajr-5

              for example that one they have been known to fire before. it’s an actual rocket from an actual military. not jerry rigged together. that one we’re talking 125kg, so we’re starting to get into the discussion range we’re talking about

              they have a lot more shitty qassam rockets than anything else. this is evident by the amount of damage the average rocket does when it lands in israel - virtually nothing. they have to send like 150 rockets to kill 1 israeli

              • HubertManne
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                So I was talking about the faked facebook post but instead your talking about a social media influencer and trying to make it sound like he is some israeli official, I will just say its a meaningless point then. Hamas and islamic jihad has been hitting israel with rockets forever and I see damage just like and worse than the hospital. Trying to say israel used a really small bomb rather than it being one of those rockets is ridiculous. That being said I don’t think there is enough proof to say either way. But lets say for some reason a madman knows for sure what really happened and he has me tied up with a gun to my head and will shoot me If I don’t get the answer right to the question of if it was israel that hit that hospital. I would say no. It would be my best chance at living. Now queing folks saying they will shoot me given the hypothetical I put up.