Linux has made significant strides, and in 2023, it’s better than ever. However, there are still individuals perpetuating a delusion: that desktop Linux is as user-friendly and productive as its mainstream counterparts. After a few discussions on Lemmy, I believe it’s important to provide a clear review of where Linux falls short as a daily driver for average users.

EDIT: can I just make it clear I don’t agree with this article one bit and think it’s an unhinged polemic?

  • @vapeloki
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    121 year ago

    Factual reasons for this please. Besides the horrible, privacy braking, AI stuff, what can photoshop do that gimp can not?

    • BolexForSoup
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      If you are professional you use what your colleagues are using. You can’t have 8 people in photoshop and 1 person in Gimp. You are not going to get a studio to flip over to gimp if they are a Photoshop house because it will cost a lot of time and money. Especially not larger operations.

      Individual freelancers? Sure. Industry capture? Way more difficult.

      • @vapeloki
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        111 year ago

        This is a reason, but it has nothing to do with alternatives. It would still hold true if you have 8 gimp and one photoshop users

        • BolexForSoup
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          01 year ago

          The point is you don’t have 8:1 in that direction and if you want adoption you need to see that.

        • @TCB13
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          01 year ago

          Wrong: this is the only thing that matters, the rest is wishful thinking and delusions.

          • @vapeloki
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            11 year ago

            So, if you are in a company that uses Gimp, and you want to use PS, it is still gimp’s fault that this will not work?

            • @TCB13
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              11 year ago

              I guess it depends on how likely that company interacts with external people who use PS. The problem is that PS is the industry’s standard and if you go against it and things break your fault.

              • @vapeloki
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                21 year ago

                Windows is an industry standard. And so is office. As long as we treat it as such. If we want things to change we have to go against such standards.

                The big difference between Office and Photoshop is: Microsoft opened their file format. And has support for open standards.

                Adobe locked their eco system down to build a monopoly. This is not gimps fault. It is 100% on Adobe.

                While the outcome is the same, I would love to see a different wording: nothing is an alternative to Photoshop, because Adobe has a monopoly.

                • @TCB13
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                  21 year ago

                  Even with an open format MS Office and LibreOffice and others have compatibility issues. Microsoft keeps certain features kind of exclusive to their solution and then there’s the bigger picture called the Microsoft ecosystem. They are now very focused on that and that’s really hard to beat.

                  • @vapeloki
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                    11 year ago

                    This is true. But in reality, it still works.

                    And yes, the expansion of their Ecosystem is an issue. But to be honest: the cloud version works, and if I get a docx that is broken in Libreoffice, I use 365. At least I have this option.

                    It’s a complicated topic with no real solution

    • @TCB13
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      11 year ago

      Collaboration with other Adobe users? Same thing with Office. If one lives in a bubble and doesn’t to collaborate with others then native Linux apps might work and might even deliver a decent workflow. Once you’ve to collaborate with others who use Windows/Mac it’s game over – the “alternatives” aren’t just up to it.

    • @[email protected]
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      -101 year ago

      Factual will be relative, and no matter what I say you’ll find a way to turn this into a fight.

      What other apps compete with photoshop besides gimp?

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        You started with “gimp is shit”, so why not provide reasons for it?

        Or is this the apple vs android, coffee vs tea, stick vs automatic kind of subjective argument?

        What other products on windows compete with photoshop in your opinion? I don’t get your reason>!!<

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            Nope. That’s called the burden of proof. You started by saying “gimp is shit”, it’s up to you to prove it, it’s not up to the people responding you to disprove your point of view. What you’re doing right now is called a fallacy and just totally discredit yourself.

            • @[email protected]
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              -51 year ago

              No. Im asking for alternatives, and then saying my opinion is that gimp is shit.

              Making excuses for not answering my question is pretty lame. If I answer you, you won’t answer me. You’ll just attack my opinions and leave. No thanks lol

          • @vapeloki
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            91 year ago

            The answer is simple, Gimp is the only “full featured” photoshop replacement. And the os doesn’t matter for this. There is no alternative in windows besides gimp. Apples products also fall short.

            And now, why is gimp shit?

              • @vapeloki
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                41 year ago

                You see, I answered your question. Now, where is the answer you promised? Let me guess, you don’t have any?

                • @[email protected]
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                  31 year ago

                  GIMP’s interface can definitely be less intuitive for some users.

                  GIMP does not always seamlessly integrate into professional workflows.

                  Photoshop offers a more extensive set of advanced features and tools, such as advanced text handling, 3D capabilities, etc, which are not as robust in GIMP.

                  GIMP’s CMYK support is not robust at all.

                  GIMP’s non-destructive editing features are poor in comparison to photoshop.

                  GIMP’s native format (XCF) is not as universally compatible as PSD

                  GIMP has significantly fewer learning resources. This is more about the community and less about the software.

                  These are just a few examples.

                  • @vapeloki
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                    I think some parts are just a question of perspective. I am not a GFX person. But I have friends that work in this field. One of them starter learning with gimp. And he constantly is ranting about photoshop at work. He claims the interface of PS is garbage, support for some obscure file format is not even there and so on.

                    So, I think it depends on what your are used to.

                    For the documentation: yes! And raw image support is an issue to. Mostly because of proprietary bullshit standards, but yes. This is missing.

                    Does this make gimp to a shit software? No