Naw it’s a sweet love story with a standard loss ending.
Rose’s motivations are primarily driven by her desire for freedom and independence. She feels trapped by her wealthy but oppressive family and her engagement to the controlling and wealthy Caledon.
She’s looking for a way to escape her life and find her own identity. This leads her to a deep emotional connection with Jack. Her motivations are centered on breaking free from the constraints of her upper-class background and pursuing a life of her own choosing, which ultimately culminates in her decisions and actions throughout the film. He represents everything she’s yearned for.
That said, on that specific night, women were lucky the patriarchy was still in place, as ladies first chivalry, based on the idea that women were objects/property to be cared for rather than individuals who could/should fend for themselves, still applied and well over twice as many women were given seats on lifeboats as men, which would be seen as really patronizing today.
It’s just once they got back home they still weren’t allowed to vote, grow professional careers, get equal access to higher education, own their own property while with a man because of coverture laws, be allowed to play in athletic sports or form leagues, hold any real position of political power, get a divorce easily to escape abusive relationships, allowed to be legally raped by their spouses as much as he wanted while having zero reproductive rights, etc.
Just some give and take for that one day for some unlucky dudes, as you put it.
…it was a tongue-in-cheek reply to the dismissive retort of the person I was responding to…the tone of which was meant to convey the ridiculousness of the statement, which they heavily edited to be far less sexist, to their credit.
Also how would you like me to not recognize the disparity imparted by their “genitals” in a comment discussing how the people with openings for genitals were allowed special treatment at this time, and less so at later times. It’s literally the entire context.
How dare you combat my dismissive humor with well-said, thoughtful arguments!
I’m gonna upvote your comment, but while I do, I’m gonna be thinking about the words you said and how I’ve also allowed a misogynistic bias cause me to overlook Rose as the three-dimensional character that she is and it’s all your fault!
Titanic truly was the strangest fan-fic softcore porn ever…
Naw it’s a sweet love story with a standard loss ending.
Rose’s motivations are primarily driven by her desire for freedom and independence. She feels trapped by her wealthy but oppressive family and her engagement to the controlling and wealthy Caledon.
She’s looking for a way to escape her life and find her own identity. This leads her to a deep emotional connection with Jack. Her motivations are centered on breaking free from the constraints of her upper-class background and pursuing a life of her own choosing, which ultimately culminates in her decisions and actions throughout the film. He represents everything she’s yearned for.
Plus he’s really hot, so that helps.
Rose: My wealth makes me feel so trapped in a life I don’t want!
Meanwhile, in steerage:
Well, yeah. She was still a woman in an oppressively ordered patriarchy. Things have gotten a lot better since then.
True.
That said, on that specific night, women were lucky the patriarchy was still in place, as ladies first chivalry, based on the idea that women were objects/property to be cared for rather than individuals who could/should fend for themselves, still applied and well over twice as many women were given seats on lifeboats as men, which would be seen as really patronizing today.
Everything has a cost, even equality.
As a man, I would have fought tooth and nail for a seat, but not out of selfishness.
“PLEASE UNDERSTAND I’M DOING THIS FOR THE CAUSE OF WOMEN’S EQUALITY!!!”
“I will tuck my junk SO FAST…”
For sure.
It’s just once they got back home they still weren’t allowed to vote, grow professional careers, get equal access to higher education, own their own property while with a man because of coverture laws, be allowed to play in athletic sports or form leagues, hold any real position of political power, get a divorce easily to escape abusive relationships, allowed to be legally raped by their spouses as much as he wanted while having zero reproductive rights, etc.
Just some give and take for that one day for some unlucky dudes, as you put it.
Those dudes weren’t just “unlucky”, they fucking died. Stop focusing on genetalia and look at humanity.
…it was a tongue-in-cheek reply to the dismissive retort of the person I was responding to…the tone of which was meant to convey the ridiculousness of the statement, which they heavily edited to be far less sexist, to their credit.
Also how would you like me to not recognize the disparity imparted by their “genitals” in a comment discussing how the people with openings for genitals were allowed special treatment at this time, and less so at later times. It’s literally the entire context.
How dare you combat my dismissive humor with well-said, thoughtful arguments!
I’m gonna upvote your comment, but while I do, I’m gonna be thinking about the words you said and how I’ve also allowed a misogynistic bias cause me to overlook Rose as the three-dimensional character that she is and it’s all your fault!
I took it as more of a lustful fling on a boat.