Government and gas-focused industry body resist conclusion that heat pumps are ‘only viable’ option for heating UK homes

  • HypxOP
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    111 months ago

    If the goal is just making heat, there’s little difference between the two.

    • @Mojojojo1993
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      311 months ago

      Well now no. That’s dumb. I can burn humans to make heat. I can burn coal. The point is the least amount of damage to the planet and the things on it ?

      Us

      • HypxOP
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        211 months ago

        Both are zero emissions. Neither of which does much harm to the planet.

        • @Mojojojo1993
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          111 months ago

          Hydrogen can be produced from fossil fuels though. Unfortunately no way to say hydrogen was produced through green means

          • HypxOP
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            211 months ago

            That’s true of electricity too. There’s no way of telling fossil fuel from green electricity.

            • @Mojojojo1993
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              111 months ago

              This is true. Which is why you remove fossil fuels from the grid. Why add extra costs and infrastructure for hydrogen. Just use electricity for heating and hydrogen for planes maybe long haul truckers and sea freight

              • HypxOP
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                211 months ago

                The infrastructure cost for hydrogen is much cheaper than the cost of expanding the grid. We simply start making a lot of green hydrogen and that will displace fossil hydrogen. Even the grid will rely on hydrogen for backup power generation.

                • @Mojojojo1993
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                  111 months ago

                  The grid needs upgraded though. So they a moot point. The grid wasn’t built for renewables and it wasn’t built to deal with the way we currently need it. It’s also underdeveloped and underfunded.

                  So no I hear you disagree.

                  https://theconversation.com/time-to-get-real-amid-the-hydrogen-hype-lets-talk-about-what-will-actually-work-144579

                  Hydrogen is expensive to contain and to transport. It has its uses but it’s really not necessary. If we use solar and wind correctly. We need batteries. And we don’t even need that. We can just use pumped systems and other systems to use power.

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                    11 months ago

                    Not the case. A hydrogen infrastructure allows us to scale back the grid, or at least limit how much bigger it needs to get.

                    A lot of the anti-hydrogen rhetoric is marketing BS. We can handle hydrogen just fine. We can even put hydrogen in natural gas pipelines and reuse much of that infrastructure. Also, once we have hydrogen we don’t really need batteries, or at least much less of them. Hydrogen stored in underground salt cavern exceeds the capacity of any other kind of energy storage. So all of the other energy storage ideas become obsolete or much less important once hydrogen shows up.