Here we go again…

  • @LemmyIsFantastic
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    -171 year ago

    Because it’s not normal. You just hear about every single instance. Unless you participate or live in very specific neighborhoods with gang violence your odds of being shot are incredibly low.

    • SonnyVabitch
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      231 year ago

      You also hear about every single instance that happens in other countries, too, except it happens elsewhere once every couple of decades, not couple of days.

      • @LemmyIsFantastic
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        And? I said it’s relatively rare. I’m not sure what the EU has to do with the statement I typed out. Did the EU having lower rates affect how rare it is to be shot in the US?

        • SonnyVabitch
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          111 year ago

          I don’t know why you’re asking me about the EU, but if for instance gunshot wounds are one of the leading causes of death among children and teenagers in one highly developed Western democracy, and it doesn’t even come up in the statistics in any other country, that one country is doing (or fails to do) something that is costing the lives of some of its most vulnerable people. Not recognising it and not striving to do something about it is a huge problem worth pointing out.

          • @LemmyIsFantastic
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            -101 year ago

            And even with the elevated rate, it’s still absurdly rare. You are talking 1000 or so cases for nearly 100m children.

            • @Bytemeister
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              You’re off by almost a factor of 4. In 2021, it was 3.7 deaths per 100,000 children. Scaling that up to 100m, would be 3700 children. In 2021, ~2500 children were killed by firearms in the US, that is ~0.29 children per hour.

              • SonnyVabitch
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                41 year ago

                They want to play the numbers game when one is one too many. Don’t engage in the percentages tango, it validates their stupid point.

                • @Bytemeister
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                  Nah, I say let them play. I don’t want them to tell me how low it is, I really want to know how high they are willing to let that number go. The answer is the same every time; any number of dead kids doesn’t matter. I just want them to be upfront with that information rather than falsely state that they don’t care because the number is low, when the truth is they just don’t fucking care at all because they are fucking selfish assholes.

    • @LemmysMum
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      131 year ago

      Age-adjusted firearm homicide rates in the US are 22 times greater than in the European Union and 23 times greater than in Australia.

      Gun violence accounts for over 7% of deaths in the US among those under age 20.

      • @LemmyIsFantastic
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        -151 year ago

        Well it’s a great thing that deaths under 20 are quite rare!

          • @LemmyIsFantastic
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            -111 year ago

            I can’t recall shooting any kids in my lifetime 🤷‍♂️

            • @LemmysMum
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              111 year ago

              You do it every time you vote.

              • @RaoulDook
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                -61 year ago

                I’ll vote against anyone that proposes gun control just to spite you.

                • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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                  31 year ago

                  Then you’ll be voting against everyone because nearly everyone supports some kind of gun control.

                  You’ll have to track down and vote for the guys who are willing to arm people on death row if you really believe what you just wrote.

                  • @RaoulDook
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                    -51 year ago

                    Nope it’s very easy, I select the Libertarian candidate usually. I have no regrets about my voting record because I don’t compromise my principles to vote for “the lesser evil” when non-evil options are available each time.

              • @LemmyIsFantastic
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                -111 year ago

                What a fantastic story you’ve invented. I say shootings are rare and you’ve turned this into me shooting children. Absolutely fantastic imagination and skill.

                • @LemmysMum
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                  You say shootings are rare when they’re 23 times higher than your first world contemporaries. So either you’re a bullet dodging child, or you need to go back to bullet dodging to fill those gaps in your education.

                  • @LemmyIsFantastic
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                    -61 year ago

                    Ahhh I see! You don’t understand the difference between a relative and absolute measurement.

                • @wildcardology
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                  11 year ago

                  The US has had 565 shootings so far this year. My country has none. That’s not rare that’s regular.

    • @TheJims
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      41 year ago

      It’s not normal!

      -the person trying to normalize it

    • @RaoulDook
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      1 year ago

      This is correct, no matter how many downvotes you receive. Facts are facts.

      Homicde of any kind, including suicides, is not even in the top 10 most common causes of death in the USA. Homicides with a gun are farther down the list than homicides in general. Suicides with a gun are more common than murders. Mass shootings are not even a blip on the “most common” stats about death.

      When a mass shooting happens, all of the anti-gun people rush to say we should ban “assault weapons” which they define as scary looking rifles. Rifles overall only account for 3% of gun deaths in the USA.

      • @LeadSoldier
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        61 year ago

        I’m a veteran so I know guns and I look forward to additional common sense checks and maybe licenses for owning a firearm. A lot of the things that have been proposed and shot down have been very good ideas. But the fact that they keep using the phrase “assault weapons” is ruining their argument. They are non-gun people talking about guns incorrectly. It’s like when Congress had to question Facebook and asked why their Gmail wasn’t working correctly. If they are going to ban fast shooting high powered weapons, they should be specific. “Assault weapons” are not a thing.

        And I’m going to continue my rant… Let’s say you are very pro getting assault weapons off the street and it passes. The criminal can just use an equivalent rifle designed for hunting. Getting " assault weapons" banned will literally not stop anything because they are using the wrong words in order to fear monger.

        • @LemmysMum
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          21 year ago

          Yep, there’s idiots on both sides of every fence that got to their opinions through circumstance rather than cognizance.