I don’t really see the point of this. It’s just adding complexity for the sake of it. As far as I can tell when you change gear it just changes some software parameters, there are no physical gears. Yet there’s a clutch and the ability to stall?

  • @LemmyIsFantastic
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    Still makes sense for the sports cars. But very few people on the planet want a manual EV daily. This will fail on commuter cars.

    • @Maalus
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      It doesn’t tho. An automatic can outshift a human anytime. For purists, they put in paddles.

      • DudeBoy
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        011 months ago

        Being able to choose when to shift is often more important than how quickly you shift. Paddle shifters require expensive transmissions or some software trickery.

      • @LemmyIsFantastic
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        At normal speeds gears do not make sense for a daily. At track speeds you’ll find most EVs, outside the 600+ bhp type models hit their top end. Having a second and third gear is helpful for that. Not shift speed.

        • @Maalus
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          Manual makes sense for people who are used to manuals. Like 95% of Europe. Driving an automatic is boring to me for example.

        • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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          411 months ago

          They’re not all technically the same manual you have in a car. F1, for instance, shifts with buttons

        • @LemmyIsFantastic
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          1. they aren’t
          2. most teams are using a sequential which is basically an auto with flappy paddles or a up down lever. You ain’t using a clutch except to get into first.
          3. because it’s a driving aid and people don’t like that shit. ABS is about the only aids people accept.

          I don’t care if you’re fucking max verstappen, you ain’t shifting faster than a Porsche or Ferrari DCT.

        • @Fetus
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          111 months ago

          No drag racer ever used a powerglide? And would you really consider F1 cars to be manual?

        • @Aux
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          111 months ago

          No one is using a manual in motorsports.

          • @Death_Equity
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            111 months ago

            Define “motorsports”.

            Time attack, drifting, autocross, and drag racers all have manuals used.

        • TigrisMorte
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          -111 months ago

          The gears in motorsport are manual where as the gears in EV are software.

    • @[email protected]
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      Since it’s all software, it would surprise me if it can’t just be disabled when you’re not in the mood for fun. I think that will make it a bit more appealing to the masses.

    • DudeBoy
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      011 months ago

      It makes no sense for EV sports cars. Manuals on ICE cars make sense because being able to chose exactly when the car shifts is important and because sequential shift and dual clutch transmissions are extremely expensive.

        • DudeBoy
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          -111 months ago

          How so? Would you mind explaining your reasoning because I honestly can’t think of a good reason to put fake stick shifts in EVs. From my point of view it’s the automotive equivalent of putting subway suffers clips on the bottom half of a tiktok.