• @[email protected]
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    11 months ago

    We have all seen the video of her broken body being paraded through Gaza and the people spitting on her. Hamas did that and they brought death and destruction to Gaza.

    • @ShroOmeric
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      10411 months ago

      Hamas AND Israel both brought death and destruction to Gaza. Palestinian children are not bombing themselves now.

    • @Squizzy
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      3811 months ago

      I have not seen that thankfully

        • Bezerker03
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          1011 months ago

          It is sadly the reality of the situation. Only someone fucked up can see that and the other videos from that day (example the slaughtered elderly at the bus stop etc) and think “Oh Hamas are the good guys.”

          • @[email protected]
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            911 months ago

            I think the number of people who think hamas are the good guys is infinitessimal compared to the number of people who think Israel shouldn’t be genocidal.

            • WuTang
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              -911 months ago

              what the fuck did I just read! Israel military should indeed kill children, shouldn’t they? fucking bastard you are.

              Heavily armed, full of advantages, but are there, behind their joysticks killing toddlers! What an army of piece of shit!

        • @[email protected]
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          -811 months ago

          It’s reality. You want to understand the hatred felt by everything in that region? You have to watch it uncensored.

    • silly goose meekah
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      2711 months ago

      so the past 50 years of the gaza strip being bombed by israel have not brought death and desctruction to gaza? that’s ignoring the constant blockades and other restrictions israel put on gaza as well.

      • @nucawysi
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        11 months ago

        lets not forget the blockade by egypt too, even jordan at one point wanted to kick out and backtrack citizenship for all descendants of palestinian refugees

        • @[email protected]
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          1611 months ago

          I mean, the main start of the conflict was over 70 years ago. I’m not sure if Israel really comes out looking that much better.

          They unilaterally declared themselves a state and ended up expelling over 700k people from their homes. They even utilized biological warfare, poisoning wells with typhus.

          While there have been crimes against humanity committed by both sides, the reason people focus on Israel is that they are in the sole position of power. Palestine has no way to barter or negotiate, and when all other forms of discourse are eliminated, then the only option is violence.

          • @Earthwormjim91
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            711 months ago

            Arab nations forced hundreds of thousands of Jews out of their homes and into Israel when the Brits controlled it.

            Israel accepted the UN proposal for a two state solution, giving Gaza and the West Bank to Palestine.

            Palestine rejected it and launched a war against Israel with the help of Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, and Iran in an attempt to eliminate the Jews in Israel.

            • @[email protected]
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              211 months ago

              Arab nations forced hundreds of thousands of Jews out of their homes and into Israel when the Brits controlled it.

              Israel did not exist under British rule… are you talking about the blockade of Jerusalem in 47? I don’t think you know what you are talking about, there were only 500k Jews in all of Palestine when the British were in charge. And a lot more Palestinians were displaced during that conflict than Jews.

              Israel accepted the UN proposal for a two state solution, giving Gaza and the West Bank to Palestine.

              Yeah… That’s why people were upset. The Jewish population made up 1/3 of the population, and owned only 7% of the land during the mandate, but we’re given 56% of the country, which just happened to be the most valuable land.

              Of course people are going to be pissed, a minority group was just awarded the majority of the country for free.

                • @[email protected]
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                  111 months ago

                  Clearly not, as he said this was an operation when the British controlled Palestine. Magic carpet happened in 49’, two years after the initial outbreak of violence.

                  We were discussing the initial cause of the violence, not one of its results.

        • silly goose meekah
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          311 months ago

          Truth be told, I am not old enough to have cared about issues like this pre 2010. So what exactly do you think justifies israels behavior here? What happened before 2010 that shows that Palestine is the aggressor?

            • silly goose meekah
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              411 months ago

              Well, fair enough, in this comment chain nobody justified Israels behavior.

              I know Hamas has been hiding behind civilians and children, and Hamas are absolutely disgusting. Definitely. But I think it’s necessary to acknowledge that bombing civilians to get rid of terrorists is counterproductive. IDF is almost certainly creating more terrorists than they are killing by doing that. I’m sure some of the civilians already want to destroy Israel, but I think most of them get indoctrinated when joining Hamas after seeing how friends and family keep getting killed by IDF.

      • WuTang
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        -1311 months ago

        “It is kind of more complicated than that” when it is really not!

        let me just start with this postulate:

        • palestinians: natives
        • israelis: colons

        Should I add than one is heavily militarized and has control over infrastructures?

        • @[email protected]
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          611 months ago

          That’s wrong though. Palestinians and Israelis both stem from ancestors from the area. You could even say that at least in Jerusalem the Palestinians came later.

          • WuTang
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            -311 months ago

            bullshit! you want to go back to what? neolithic ?

      • Bezerker03
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        1411 months ago

        I mean after what happened it’s going to turn a lot of people dark. No different than in the states after 9/11. I legit know people that signed up just to “kill some sand you know what’s to get pay back”. That’s fucked up yes. And wrong. But hardly unexpected just like I expect citizens of Gaza to enmase celebrate the death of Jews now.

      • @JewGoblin
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        411 months ago

        well I guess that makes killing this citizen ok then

        • @Mrkawfee
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          -1011 months ago

          That’s a terrible thing to say.

          • @assassin_aragorn
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            1211 months ago

            So is responding to a human atrocity with “yeah but what about these other people celebrating an atrocity”