Either you all are being intentionally disingenuous, or you’re significantly misinformed. There’s a difference between passive support of a ally doing terrible things and actively starting a war yourself and doing terrible things.
Honest question, is funnelling them money still passive support? I understand aid for Ukraine defending their soil, but I’m not ok with sending my money to help Israel do a genocide.
Thanks for being sincere. I only used the term passive in the sense that we’re not sending our own troops over to actively participate. I agree with you on the money transfer issue. I also consider it noteworthy that a lot of the legislation for Israel financial support not only excludes support for Ukraine, but requires the funds to be diverted from useful domestic purposes.
Almost as if it’s in some countries’ interests for people to get distracted from following the war in Ukraine until Trump gets elected and that some people are deliberately using the situation in Gaza to do just that.
Putin is bad, Biden is bad. For different reasons obviously. I live in Canada right now and I’d say Trudeau would be equally bad for supporting genocide.
My point is that you’re making a false equivalency by comparing the two and just saying they’re both bad. Adding Trudeau to the mix doesn’t change that. Sure, you can compare him to Biden, but comparing both to Putin is disingenuous.
It’s like saying a papercut and a severed artery are both bad. One is significantly worse than the other.
Equally bad?? Putin is trying to criminalize LGBT+ right now. What is comparable to that that Biden has ever done? That is one thing, but we could go down the list if you want.
Idiot for taking a stolen valor troll at his word.
Why don’t you ask him where he fought in Ukraine? The names of his squadmates? Who his battalion commanders were and when they changed power? Why, whenever pressed, he says he fought in Ukraine and cannot prove his claims?
Congratulations, idiot, you let him punk your pink ass
What about those of us who think both equally as bad?
One of them is currently enabling the genocide of Palestinians. I’m not American though.
Either you all are being intentionally disingenuous, or you’re significantly misinformed. There’s a difference between passive support of a ally doing terrible things and actively starting a war yourself and doing terrible things.
Did you all suddenly forget about Ukraine?
But bOtH sIdEs!!!1!!!
Honest question, is funnelling them money still passive support? I understand aid for Ukraine defending their soil, but I’m not ok with sending my money to help Israel do a genocide.
Thanks for being sincere. I only used the term passive in the sense that we’re not sending our own troops over to actively participate. I agree with you on the money transfer issue. I also consider it noteworthy that a lot of the legislation for Israel financial support not only excludes support for Ukraine, but requires the funds to be diverted from useful domestic purposes.
“Passive support for genocide” 🤨
It ain’t even passive though, where do you think they are getting all the money and equipment??
I’ll concede this point. I meant in the sense that we’re not sending American troops over there. But I’ll concede I could be wrong on that too.
I’m not going to defend any support in any scale, regardless.
The US has sent “advisors” by the way.
I wasn’t aware of that, thank you. I’m still not supporting any of it anyways.
Almost as if it’s in some countries’ interests for people to get distracted from following the war in Ukraine until Trump gets elected and that some people are deliberately using the situation in Gaza to do just that.
I’m Ukrainian so it’s kinda hard to forget what Russia is doing to my people. I’ve fought against Russians.
My condolences to you and your people. This is an outright atrocity that needs to stop ASAP.
Slava Ukraini!
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Nooooo?! People would just do that? Go on the internet and tell lies?!
Thanks.
Who did you serve with? Where and when?
Do you have proof of service?
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Also, “supporting an ally doing terrible things” sure is a funny way of saying “enabling genocide of a people”.
Ah yes, let’s deflect from my point entirely. Such good faith conversation on your part.
What is your point?
Putin is bad, Biden is bad. For different reasons obviously. I live in Canada right now and I’d say Trudeau would be equally bad for supporting genocide.
My point is that you’re making a false equivalency by comparing the two and just saying they’re both bad. Adding Trudeau to the mix doesn’t change that. Sure, you can compare him to Biden, but comparing both to Putin is disingenuous.
It’s like saying a papercut and a severed artery are both bad. One is significantly worse than the other.
We’ll agree to disagree. Funneling money into genocide is not “papercut” levels of bad.
Again, you intentionally ignore the point of a comparison. Since you’re clearly not discussing in good faith, I’m gonna cut my losses. Goodbye.
“Cut your losses”. All those costs associated with the posting factory eh?
Who did you serve with Ukraine? Where and when did you serve? Can you describe your station from memory?
STOLEN VALOR
Equally bad?? Putin is trying to criminalize LGBT+ right now. What is comparable to that that Biden has ever done? That is one thing, but we could go down the list if you want.
Supporting a genocide.
And that’s equally as bad as personally launching one in Ukraine? Do you see the difference or are we that tone-deaf? lol
It’s the same thing, but lol if you don’t think funneling billions in $$ and weaponry is playing a “passive” part.
To say that there’s no difference whatsoever is being a bit obtuse only for the sake of defending an argument to absurdity
Launching a war vs. funding a war is basically the same thing. There’s no moral high ground there.
You Americans are going to be constantly saddled with shit politicians. Your choice is Fascism or Fascism lite. Time for a revolution I’d say.
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Fuck off Russian trash 🖕
Edit: this garbage “human” is lying to you about his Ukrainian service
Ukrainian my dude. I only kill Russians. Totally original comeback though…
How long have you lived in Canada?
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He’s Canadian. 🤦
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Idiot for taking a stolen valor troll at his word.
Why don’t you ask him where he fought in Ukraine? The names of his squadmates? Who his battalion commanders were and when they changed power? Why, whenever pressed, he says he fought in Ukraine and cannot prove his claims?
Congratulations, idiot, you let him punk your pink ass
Why would I believe he fought in Ukraine?