Bill Gates says a 3-day work week where ‘machines can make all the food and stuff’ isn’t a bad idea::“A society where you only have to work three days a week, that’s probably OK,” Bill Gates said.

  • Derin
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    567 months ago

    Isn’t this the primary argument for universal basic income? If you’re keeping unnecessary jobs around just to give people something to do, you’re not actually keeping them for contributions to society… In the long run ubi could probably even be cheaper than paying to prop up obsolete and wholly unnecessary industries.

    • @kautau
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      177 months ago

      While true, UBI would have to be funded by corporate tax.

      “We no longer need people to be able to sell and deliver our products”

      ^ Win for the corporations

      “Virtually no (low-income) property is unoccupied now. And my middle class tenants are making more from UBI, so I raised rent”

      ^ Win for landlords (which are mostly corporations)

      “We can now demographically target ads to UBI payouts to get people to spend their money”

      ^ Win for corporations

      It continues, but the general idea is that, while the populace could benefit from UBI, if it just comes from their taxes it’s not going to shrink class division in any way, but increase it

      • Derin
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        127 months ago

        Yes, funding UBI with raised corporate taxes is absolutely not optional, I agree completely.

        At the end of the day, simplified, UBI means: massive cuts to the workforce, in lieu of technology that can perform the exact same tasks more efficiently, for less; all the while paying people money at the same or similar levels of what they earned before.

        It would be insane to assume the former would just grow wealthier over night while the latter is relegated to being financed by - in this example - wishful thinking. The money’s gotta come from somewhere, and it makes sense it be the same place it’s (supposed to be) coming from now.

    • @jaybone
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      07 months ago

      If everyone gets UBI, I assume it is still optional to work. Otherwise no one would produce goods and services that we consume in order to live. Or at least fixing the robots.

      I assume the incentive for that is additional income.

      Wouldn’t this then create an even larger gap in income inequality? And further dilute the spending power of those who are only able to collect UBI?

      • Derin
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        37 months ago

        It would, yes. But, the argument is that a person who wants a higher quality of life than “simply living” would be expected to work.

        The right to life is, this way, protected - the right to a quality life, similar to today, would still have to be earned. This is in addition to the social pressure to work.

        • @[email protected]
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          37 months ago

          Also, one idea is that UBI would give people the financial space to pursue their own interests which in turn could easily --at least in some cases-- be turned into productive businesses of their own.