• @[email protected]
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    We literally do not live in a democracy according to a bunch of empirical studies, and also according to basic material analysis.

    The opinion of the masses is never reflected in our government.

    Does your politics begin and end at participating in sham elections? Why aren’t you encouraging people to take meaningful political action?

    Imagine being Russian and the extent of your political activism is encouraging people to vote Putin out.

    That’s how ridiculous you are.

    • @DevCatOP
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      What is your definition of “meaningful political action”? Picking up guns? Got news for you, the government has more of them.

      Voting starts at the local level. You vote people into local city government who reflect your views and values. Those people often enough have greater aspirations and want to move up in the political machine. It’s extremely rare for someone to be vaulted from average Joe to major political player in one leap. Trump was able to do it by being a populist piece of shit who could pay his way into office.

      You have to start small. Get your city council to look like you, then move on to the county, the state, etc.

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        What is your definition of “meaningful political action”? Picking up guns? Got news for you, the government has more of them.

        Do you really think the two options for politics are voting in sham elections and WACO?

        Voting starts at the local level. You vote people into local city government who reflect your views and values. Those people often enough have greater aspirations and want to move up in the political machine. It’s extremely rare for someone to be vaulted from average Joe to major political player in one leap. Trump was able to do it by being a populist piece of shit who could pay his way into office.

        You have to start small. Get your city council to look like you, then move on to the county, the state, etc.

        Local elections are also pretty much a “which landlord can pay the most money and be the least repulsive”

        You have to build parallel power structures before you can meaningfully influence any electoral structure, including local ones.

    • @Sunfoil
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      This is just untrue though.

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          11 year ago

          You just can’t reconcile the fact people don’t vote how you want, therefore the system must be broken. And spreading voting apathy by telling people it’s all bullshit is one of the most damaging things you could do to your democracy. You’re better for Trump than most Republicans.

    • kpw
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      11 year ago

      What meaningful political action do you propose?

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        You do realize your comment is just “You’re wrong!” with more flowery language right?

    • @[email protected]
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      01 year ago

      We literally do not live in a democracy according to a bunch of empirical studies, and also according to basic material analysis.

      As far as I know, there is one study, and even that is under dispute on secondary analysis of the underlying data.

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          11 year ago

          Once upon a time that would have been a simple answer, given the concentrated ownership of news that could reach any one person. But now with the Internet, there is less and less control by any one group. Certainly the age of the rich effectively controlling the media is over.

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            But now with the Internet, there is less and less control by any one group. Certainly the age of the rich effectively controlling the media is over.

            Pr teams have successfully learned how to use social media, and social media giants promote views that are beneficial to them like fascism while suppressing left wing content.

            I dont think the internet existing makes us a democracy, the parasocial nature of a lot of internet content actually makes it so people are more able to sell their propaganda.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 year ago

              There is plenty of media that exists outside of media giants. Case in point, there is a local blogger here in Portland, OR that runs bikeportland.org to cover bikes and related subjects. His blog posts and discussions on them are a major part of the local discourse around infrastructure in Portland. He’s not rich, but he exercises influence.

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                Okay, but you do see how thats pretty boutique compared to the local news channels, let alone the giants, right?

                Small things are allowed to exist that oppose the dominant ideology until they meaningfully threaten it.

                • @[email protected]
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                  11 year ago

                  Any grassroots media is going to be “boutique”. That doesn’t make it not influential, especially when considered as a whole.