The trailer for the upcoming installment of GTA was released shortly after it was leaked on social media. The best-selling video game franchise will return to Vice City, a fictional location based on Miami.
Oh, it’s not just P2P. There are ways to make P2P networking work, but GTAO has several inherent networking flaws.
One of them is that a client is understandably responsible for computing things around it (pedestrians etc). This is fine in itself but what if two people meet and one leaves? What happens to the things it was computing?
Well, clients can send a packet that means “don’t worry I got it from here” that they can send to other clients to tell them that from now on, they will be the one computing a specific thing. Non-hacked clients are programmed to always agree. No matter what the thing is.
Unrelated, here are a few example of the types of things that are affected by this:
pedestrians
NPC cars
various props
empty cars
cars with other players in them
other player’s avatars (which are considered special pedestrians)
various item pickups
vehicles other than cars
various scripts that have to do with single-player interactions, such as the casino wheel, slots, biker gang actions, etc.
This means that as a hacker, you get to decide what happens with the car somebody is driving, and change whatever attributes you want about it.
Note that this also means that any client is free to spawn any of the above items at any point, including the money bags spawned by tellers when you rob them (R* does do some checks when you tell them your new account balance but it’s really not that hard to bypass). Any client is also free to change anything about these items. Color, license plate, engine upgrades, hell, even straight up engine variables. And other clients have to accept that that happened, because that’s how the protocol is written.
This is just for regular stuff though. Hackers can already massively affect the game this way but there is some stuff they can’t do. Until they become the most senior client of the session (for example by crashing anyone more senior than them through various exploits - patched in their own clients of course).
Being the oldest client in a session means you become the script host, and when you’re script host, you unlock additional things that everyone agrees are your responsibility, such as what time of day and weather it is. Overall being script host isn’t that desirable because it doesn’t grant stuff that is really strong, just stuff that has wide impact (for example I think the script host has the capacity to make it winter anytime, but it’s just not that funny to do that after the 2nd time).
Ther is no point in not cheating in gta5 online. You either grind like a motherfucker or you buy shark cards that are expensive as fuck. Why not cheat abd if you get banned you buy the game again, because it’s still cheaper.
Uh, it looks similar to GTA5 because it is the SEQUEL… The graphics and detail are amazing, GTA5 will probably feel like PS2 graphics when this is out.
Sure it’s just a trailer and no gameplay but if the trailer uses the games graphics engine this is incredibly impressive.
70€ for hundreds or thousands of hours of entertainment is a pretty damn good deal. Compare that to a ticket at the cinema for 2 hours.
I would not say its hundreds or thousands of hours? 30 hours max for GTA V for my “playthrough” and Online is not usable for coop or anything else then shitting on new users. But i was never a fan of GTA so you can be more hyped than me.
That is a ridiculous amount of time to put into a game. And completely impractical and shouldn’t be considered a selling point. Thousands of hours probably but Jesus relax.
RDR2 is so massively detailed and open that frankly I think that game is worth HUNDREDS of hours of gameplay. Two years in and I’m still finding new things to do. I agree I didn’t spend that long with V outside of the main story given how little there is to do, but it’s safe to say they’re gonna take everything that was a masterpiece with RDR2 and just put it in GTA. That’s kind of why the hype is so large.
My biggest problem with RDR2 is how linear and on-rails it felt. Seemed like a ton of window dressing with very little to actually do outside of the main story and its big action set pieces. One of my biggest gaming disappointments. I really hope GTA VI puts more love into its open world this go around.
IF (big if) it has decent performance on 20-30 series cards, an actual story and a better online mode, i probably will purchase it. but not for 70 bones. i’ll watch out for keys online.
You mean decent performance for GTX series cards, as if a game requires higher cards => less optimized. I wont have any hopes it will be good online mode as i see that its just a GTA V with visual mods and a “new” story.
It looks like just GTA V with mods and crack lol
But i already see people 70€ for it.
I’m probably going to pirate it with the way they’ve treated gta online
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Yeah they treated it really bad and the cheaters were everywhere and toxic playerbase is not really good.
And after i looked up how gta online handles serverside/clientside code, i can understand how easy it is just to cheat.
yeah, basically everything is p2p from my understanding. and the anticheat is basically nonexistent (technically a good thing for linux gaming).
Oh, it’s not just P2P. There are ways to make P2P networking work, but GTAO has several inherent networking flaws.
One of them is that a client is understandably responsible for computing things around it (pedestrians etc). This is fine in itself but what if two people meet and one leaves? What happens to the things it was computing?
Well, clients can send a packet that means “don’t worry I got it from here” that they can send to other clients to tell them that from now on, they will be the one computing a specific thing. Non-hacked clients are programmed to always agree. No matter what the thing is.
Unrelated, here are a few example of the types of things that are affected by this:
This means that as a hacker, you get to decide what happens with the car somebody is driving, and change whatever attributes you want about it.
Note that this also means that any client is free to spawn any of the above items at any point, including the money bags spawned by tellers when you rob them (R* does do some checks when you tell them your new account balance but it’s really not that hard to bypass). Any client is also free to change anything about these items. Color, license plate, engine upgrades, hell, even straight up engine variables. And other clients have to accept that that happened, because that’s how the protocol is written.
This is just for regular stuff though. Hackers can already massively affect the game this way but there is some stuff they can’t do. Until they become the most senior client of the session (for example by crashing anyone more senior than them through various exploits - patched in their own clients of course).
Being the oldest client in a session means you become the script host, and when you’re script host, you unlock additional things that everyone agrees are your responsibility, such as what time of day and weather it is. Overall being script host isn’t that desirable because it doesn’t grant stuff that is really strong, just stuff that has wide impact (for example I think the script host has the capacity to make it winter anytime, but it’s just not that funny to do that after the 2nd time).
Ther is no point in not cheating in gta5 online. You either grind like a motherfucker or you buy shark cards that are expensive as fuck. Why not cheat abd if you get banned you buy the game again, because it’s still cheaper.
laughs in a warehouse full of duped cars
Uh, it looks similar to GTA5 because it is the SEQUEL… The graphics and detail are amazing, GTA5 will probably feel like PS2 graphics when this is out.
Sure it’s just a trailer and no gameplay but if the trailer uses the games graphics engine this is incredibly impressive.
70€ for hundreds or thousands of hours of entertainment is a pretty damn good deal. Compare that to a ticket at the cinema for 2 hours.
I would not say its hundreds or thousands of hours? 30 hours max for GTA V for my “playthrough” and Online is not usable for coop or anything else then shitting on new users. But i was never a fan of GTA so you can be more hyped than me.
That is a ridiculous amount of time to put into a game. And completely impractical and shouldn’t be considered a selling point. Thousands of hours probably but Jesus relax.
RDR2 is so massively detailed and open that frankly I think that game is worth HUNDREDS of hours of gameplay. Two years in and I’m still finding new things to do. I agree I didn’t spend that long with V outside of the main story given how little there is to do, but it’s safe to say they’re gonna take everything that was a masterpiece with RDR2 and just put it in GTA. That’s kind of why the hype is so large.
My biggest problem with RDR2 is how linear and on-rails it felt. Seemed like a ton of window dressing with very little to actually do outside of the main story and its big action set pieces. One of my biggest gaming disappointments. I really hope GTA VI puts more love into its open world this go around.
IF (big if) it has decent performance on 20-30 series cards, an actual story and a better online mode, i probably will purchase it. but not for 70 bones. i’ll watch out for keys online.
Their announcement specified ps5 and series x. There was no mention of pc.
You mean decent performance for GTX series cards, as if a game requires higher cards => less optimized. I wont have any hopes it will be good online mode as i see that its just a GTA V with visual mods and a “new” story.
any gtx card is now 3-4 generations old. the 1080 should be able to play it at low settings but i won’t blame them if they require 2060 and up.
if the 1080 wont run it on ultra low 720p its so bad optimised, like Cyberpunk 2077 on release, and this will probably downgrade everyones experience.
It looks like a GTA knock-off. The amount of fuckbois in the trailer gives off a Saints Row vibe more than a GTA one.
it’s a trailer, my man. it’s supposed to be over the top. and with a 10 year wait, we’re expecting a lot from them.
Yeah, thats the thing 10 years for that mix of saints row, Far Cry. Is a bit undershooting its promise.
Yep thought that too but didnt wanted to say it out loud.
If it comes out early enough in the year, wait for black Friday.
I will see if it is starting like cyberpunk or if its getting a good release.