If your actions directly contradict the meaning of the word, then it doesn’t depend on anything.
Using this weirdo logic to define whether or not a person is a Christian means that you have to know the entirety of actions of their whole life to see if they entirely followed the tenants and doctrine of the religion or not, because the instant they don’t they’re not a Christian.
Since only God would be capable of such knowledge, only God would be capable of labeling people Christian or not…so effectively nobody’s a Christian.
Seems wrong in an obvious and fundamental way (because it makes the categorizations all pointless), but hey whatever grips your gourd, friendo.
No, you don’t. Those things are not tenets of Christianity or Catholicism. What we’re discussing here is whether breaking the central tenets of the religion disqualifies someone from including themselves in that group and it’s pretty clear that the answer is yes.
As an example, you can’t be a Jew and deny the Ten Commandments. Period. If someone went around saying that it was OK to kill people and that stealing is justified, they cannot call themselves Jews without also being liars. It has nothing to do with whether they themselves have stolen or may have accidentally killed someone (which, in both cases, would make them imperfect Jews). It has to do with whether or not they believe that their actions are wrong by virtue of going against the only rules the religion has at its core.
Lastly, since this will be my last response to you… you don’t have to be such a rude, insufferable asshole in your responses, “friendo”. I am not your friend. Your inability to understand basic statements followed by your complete incredulity, once the misunderstanding is pointed out, just show that it’s a waste of time talking to you. Your absolute toxicity, though, is what makes you and your opinions meaningless.
Using this weirdo logic to define whether or not a person is a Christian means that you have to know the entirety of actions of their whole life to see if they entirely followed the tenants and doctrine of the religion or not, because the instant they don’t they’re not a Christian.
Since only God would be capable of such knowledge, only God would be capable of labeling people Christian or not…so effectively nobody’s a Christian.
Seems wrong in an obvious and fundamental way (because it makes the categorizations all pointless), but hey whatever grips your gourd, friendo.
No, you don’t. Those things are not tenets of Christianity or Catholicism. What we’re discussing here is whether breaking the central tenets of the religion disqualifies someone from including themselves in that group and it’s pretty clear that the answer is yes.
As an example, you can’t be a Jew and deny the Ten Commandments. Period. If someone went around saying that it was OK to kill people and that stealing is justified, they cannot call themselves Jews without also being liars. It has nothing to do with whether they themselves have stolen or may have accidentally killed someone (which, in both cases, would make them imperfect Jews). It has to do with whether or not they believe that their actions are wrong by virtue of going against the only rules the religion has at its core.
Lastly, since this will be my last response to you… you don’t have to be such a rude, insufferable asshole in your responses, “friendo”. I am not your friend. Your inability to understand basic statements followed by your complete incredulity, once the misunderstanding is pointed out, just show that it’s a waste of time talking to you. Your absolute toxicity, though, is what makes you and your opinions meaningless.
So is it what people say or their actions that defines group membership? You can’t seem to make your mind up.