• Political Incorruption
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    710 months ago

    False dilemma.

    It’s possible to support the position of both sides.

    Israel has a right to defend itself.

    The Palestinian people have a right to exist.

    • FuglyDuck
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      610 months ago

      Let’s make this equal: Palestinians have a right to defend themselves.

      Merely existing isn’t the same standard. Every single argument except “the holocaust and you owe us”… can be flipped and used to back a pro-Palestine position,

      Further? Your argument is… pretty freaking atrocious. We have no moral obligation to provide military aid to Israel.

      Providing military aid to a nation that is committed to a genocidal campaign more than kind of makes us complicit in said genocide.

      We can and should support the civilians. Doesn’t mean we have to support genocide and provide genocidal maniacs weapons of war.

      Finally, and this is critical. Israel is, nominally, a democratic state. The current government was elected into power what? Last year?

      Gaza residents last had an election 17 years ago, with the wining party (Hamas) having been supported by Israel specifically to destabilize Palestine… and even then they only had 44% of the vote. More than half of Gazans that are alive today did not get to vote then.

      It is fair to say that Gazans aren’t responsible for Hamas’ actions. It is less fair to say Israelis are not responsible.

      • Political Incorruption
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        210 months ago

        War is bullshit in every case. Also, arguing on the Internet is a waste of time.

        However, I never argued for funding anything.

        In an idyllic world you wouldn’t be so upset, nobody would die, and war wouldn’t exist. I hope you find that world through pure will of righteousness.

        Have a nice day.

    • Ann Archy
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      310 months ago

      I’m not sure an occupying force can claim any moral “right” to defend itself.