You’re getting downvoted because you’re pointing out the complexity of the situation rather than toeing the anti-Trump Lemmy line, but I get what you’re saying. I think you have a point, although I don’t think its true for all people. Some Trump supporters really are fascists.
One thing I think liberals fail to take into account is how alienated conservatives are from mainstream media. Apart from Fox News and a handful of online zines and YouTube channels, the mainstream media is overwhelmingly Leftist in its slant. Combine that with the fact that Hollywood is Leftist and most TV media companies are eager to incorporate progressive messages for the sole purpose of reaching newly identified audiences to make more money, and you’ve got most of the media we are exposed to echoing liberal ideas and viewpoints. Conservatives understandably feel alienated in such a context, and I think that’s caused them to turn away from the media and restrict themselves to only consuming fringe media outlets that tell them what they want to hear. Social media and other internet algorithms exacerbate this effect online, creating denser and denser echo chambers. This happens on the Left too I think, but their echo chambers are much larger, because they include the mainstream media. You really have to put effort into making sure you’re exposed to conflicting views these days, and I don’t think most people have the motivation to do it.
I’m getting downvote because people think I’m bOtH sIdEsInG it all.
I’m simply noting that both sides have no common ground anymore. I left unsaid the fact that the Conservatives seem to be entirely divorced from reality, and making their own facts up.
If “mainstream media” seems “leftist”, it might be because the left is rooted in actual facts, and the right is rooted in made-up shit.
If “mainstream media” seems “leftist”, it might be because the left is rooted in actual facts, and the right is rooted in made-up shit.
I would agree that the mainstream media has a greater tendency to adhere to the facts than the media outlets conservatives tend to favor, but I don’t think that’s the same as saying Leftist views are rooted in facts and Right-wing views are rooted in made-up shit. Don’t get me wrong, I am a liberal and I definitely think our views are more realistic than those of conservatives, but I also think (and I’m rather sick and tired of it) that liberal views of conservatives are increasingly that conservatives are just dumb, bumble-fuck hicks with no education or intellect, which is just an example of one side dehumanizing and simplifying their opposition for the sake of making themselves feel superior. This benefits no one and just fuels the partisan polarization that is destroying our society.
You’re getting downvoted because you’re pointing out the complexity of the situation rather than toeing the anti-Trump Lemmy line, but I get what you’re saying. I think you have a point, although I don’t think its true for all people. Some Trump supporters really are fascists.
One thing I think liberals fail to take into account is how alienated conservatives are from mainstream media. Apart from Fox News and a handful of online zines and YouTube channels, the mainstream media is overwhelmingly Leftist in its slant. Combine that with the fact that Hollywood is Leftist and most TV media companies are eager to incorporate progressive messages for the sole purpose of reaching newly identified audiences to make more money, and you’ve got most of the media we are exposed to echoing liberal ideas and viewpoints. Conservatives understandably feel alienated in such a context, and I think that’s caused them to turn away from the media and restrict themselves to only consuming fringe media outlets that tell them what they want to hear. Social media and other internet algorithms exacerbate this effect online, creating denser and denser echo chambers. This happens on the Left too I think, but their echo chambers are much larger, because they include the mainstream media. You really have to put effort into making sure you’re exposed to conflicting views these days, and I don’t think most people have the motivation to do it.
I’m getting downvote because people think I’m bOtH sIdEsInG it all.
I’m simply noting that both sides have no common ground anymore. I left unsaid the fact that the Conservatives seem to be entirely divorced from reality, and making their own facts up.
If “mainstream media” seems “leftist”, it might be because the left is rooted in actual facts, and the right is rooted in made-up shit.
I would agree that the mainstream media has a greater tendency to adhere to the facts than the media outlets conservatives tend to favor, but I don’t think that’s the same as saying Leftist views are rooted in facts and Right-wing views are rooted in made-up shit. Don’t get me wrong, I am a liberal and I definitely think our views are more realistic than those of conservatives, but I also think (and I’m rather sick and tired of it) that liberal views of conservatives are increasingly that conservatives are just dumb, bumble-fuck hicks with no education or intellect, which is just an example of one side dehumanizing and simplifying their opposition for the sake of making themselves feel superior. This benefits no one and just fuels the partisan polarization that is destroying our society.