• @Rapidcreek
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    -1010 months ago

    When I read the Forbes link I provided, I see that wages kept place with inflation for the last 2 and a half years. When I look at the news, I see unions getting wage consessions. Inflation was a factor, but that’s been mitigated

      • @Rapidcreek
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        -1010 months ago

        It is true that the success of unions on wages effects the wages of non union workers,

        • @[email protected]
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          1010 months ago

          Yes but when union membership is only at 10% what impact are you really talking about nationwide?

          • @[email protected]
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            110 months ago

            The 10% of union wages should still impact the rest of the industry, so the 10% of the workforce getting raises and concessions will force other companies to increase wages or benefits, even if it isn’t as much as the unions’ increases.

            • @[email protected]
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              110 months ago

              Rapidcreek was attempting to make the case that working class conditions are stable and rising. His points of union gains ignore vast swaths of people’s material reality. Unions gaining ground in the past year is a great point, one I am not denying, however those gain are a very small fraction of the already small fraction of unionized workers.

              Many of the contracts left many workers out of improvements. The UPS contract won by Teamsters for example was very vocal about how it ended a two tier pay scale system, but in reality it just created a new one for part time workers hired after the contract was signed. That’s not to diminish from the gains made, but UPS’s current model requires a huge segment of their work force to be part time, as they have high volume rush periods where inbound/outbound needs to be recieved/shipped quickly as their floor space cannot accommodate the volume. Those part time workers are essential so why should they be payed at a lower scale than full time employees? Many of those part time workers aren’t as involved in union organizing and Teamsters have done a poor job bringing them into the fold, so when they vault their 85% approval of the contract, they neglect to mention what percentage didn’t participate.

              That is one example of how many of the gains won aren’t what they appear at face value. Mainstream media also does a poor job reporting these nuances in labor fights. So again yes things are improving, but definitely not for everyone and it’s not the rosy picture Rapidcreek was trying to paint.

    • @Maggoty
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      210 months ago

      You mean the paywalled link and the gaslighting CNBC article? The government’s own numbers put median wage increase vs inflation at -8 for the 2021-2023 period.