It’s never just the senate, just the house, or just the president when a party moves left.
Then you’re also willing to give the entire party credit when they move right, too? Like how the entire party killed BBB? Like how the entire party killed the minimum wage increase? Like how the entire party supports Netanyahu’s genocide? Manchin voted to confirm Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, so the entire party helped kill Roe v Wade.
If you want to give the entire party credit for the accomplishments of people who aren’t even party members like Sanders, we can certainly go there. Lieberman wasn’t a party member, so the entire party killed the public option.
Then you’re also willing to give the entire party credit when they move right, too?
Yes. The democratic party is a progressive, liberal party. That means they’re still right of center and make many moves that hurt the working class. But they’ve also been moving left since the 40s. In my state, the democratic party absorbed the Farmer-Labor party and moved significantly more left as a result. They’re still more left than the rest of the nation imo. But because they’re still primarily a liberal party, their progress is slow.
What a ridiculous lie. You’re actually going to sit there and claim that Democrats’ positions today are the result of moving to the left of Democrats during the height of the New Deal.
Only if you focus on economic issues. If you look at what the Democrats have focused on since the New Deal (when they had felt they had solved economics), civil rights, then they’re incredibly more progressive than the 1940’s or even the 1980’s.
Economically, they are just now beginning to slide leftwards from the 1940’s position, but to focus exclusively on that would be blind to all other progress made.
civil rights, then they’re incredibly more progressive than the 1940’s or even the 1980’s.
What was the most recent civil rights legislation they passed at the national level? Court decisions aren’t legislation.
In any event, the article is about Senate Democrats’ support for labor. The most recent action the Senate has taken regarding labor has been enthusiastic strikebreaking.
Economically, they are just now beginning to slide leftwards from the 1940’s position
They are just now beginning to pretend to slide towards it.
In any event, the article is about Senate Democrats’ support for labor. The most recent action the Senate has taken regarding labor has been enthusiastic strikebreaking.
This is only true if you ignore/dont know about the senate lobbying and negotiation for the PRO-Act.
They are just now beginning to pretend to slide towards it.
This is incredibly disingenuous and portrays the vaguely free market years of Clinton as the entirety of democratic policy for the past 70 years.
Currently it’s focused on legislating the gains made by the courts on areas of gender, sexuality, and racial discrimination I’ve been hearing about this bill and the other bills seen as tag-alongs for the past 4 or so years in professional activist/aide circles.
I didn’t ask what the most recent civil rights legislation they’re not going to pass is. I asked what the most recent civil rights legislation they passed was.
This is only true if you ignore/dont know about the senate lobbying and negotiation for the PRO-Act.
They successfully engaged in strikebreaking. Can centrists not tell the difference between claiming to want to accomplish something and actually accomplishing it?
This is incredibly disingenuous and portrays the vaguely free market years of Clinton as the entirety of democratic policy for the past 70 years.
If we ever get to the left of Clinton again, you can make that claim with some legitimacy.
Then you’re also willing to give the entire party credit when they move right, too? Like how the entire party killed BBB? Like how the entire party killed the minimum wage increase? Like how the entire party supports Netanyahu’s genocide? Manchin voted to confirm Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, so the entire party helped kill Roe v Wade.
If you want to give the entire party credit for the accomplishments of people who aren’t even party members like Sanders, we can certainly go there. Lieberman wasn’t a party member, so the entire party killed the public option.
Yes. The democratic party is a progressive, liberal party. That means they’re still right of center and make many moves that hurt the working class. But they’ve also been moving left since the 40s. In my state, the democratic party absorbed the Farmer-Labor party and moved significantly more left as a result. They’re still more left than the rest of the nation imo. But because they’re still primarily a liberal party, their progress is slow.
What a ridiculous lie. You’re actually going to sit there and claim that Democrats’ positions today are the result of moving to the left of Democrats during the height of the New Deal.
I don’t know what else to tell you. Progress is progress. You don’t get to pick and choose what counts as “real progress”.
Something that isn’t a lie. Democrats have moved to the right since at least the 80s.
Only if you focus on economic issues. If you look at what the Democrats have focused on since the New Deal (when they had felt they had solved economics), civil rights, then they’re incredibly more progressive than the 1940’s or even the 1980’s.
Economically, they are just now beginning to slide leftwards from the 1940’s position, but to focus exclusively on that would be blind to all other progress made.
What was the most recent civil rights legislation they passed at the national level? Court decisions aren’t legislation.
In any event, the article is about Senate Democrats’ support for labor. The most recent action the Senate has taken regarding labor has been enthusiastic strikebreaking.
They are just now beginning to pretend to slide towards it.
Currently it’s focused on legislating the gains made by the courts on areas of gender, sexuality, and racial discrimination I’ve been hearing about this bill and the other bills seen as tag-alongs for the past 4 or so years in professional activist/aide circles.
This is only true if you ignore/dont know about the senate lobbying and negotiation for the PRO-Act.
This is incredibly disingenuous and portrays the vaguely free market years of Clinton as the entirety of democratic policy for the past 70 years.
I didn’t ask what the most recent civil rights legislation they’re not going to pass is. I asked what the most recent civil rights legislation they passed was.
They successfully engaged in strikebreaking. Can centrists not tell the difference between claiming to want to accomplish something and actually accomplishing it?
If we ever get to the left of Clinton again, you can make that claim with some legitimacy.