But isn’t their point that the life expectancy of “biological men” also apply to trans women, and vice verca? That wouldn’t be conveyed if they used the prefix cis.
This would of course only be relevant if life expectancy is a purely biological phenomenon, which I am not so sure it is.
A fair bit of the difference in lifespan isn’t genetic, it’s social. Statistically, men and women don’t do the same jobs, and some of those are much more dangerous than others. Men are also more likely to get into accidents and violence, leading to younger deaths.
None of that cares about your genetics and your reproductive organs and hormones are only peripherally involved in it.
Lol, what a convenient manipulation of reality you’ve done here!
Not only do married men live longer, but they do it at the expense of their wives, since women who are married live shorter lives (and are less happy!) than women who aren’t.
A fair point I hadn’t considered, but in that case AFAB/AMAB is still better than “biological male/female”, since that’s not even something most people know (I don’t know my chromosomal, hormonal, or DNA structures, do you?).
And what does that mean? Biological male/female seems pretty clear to me, whatever you’re born with between your legs indicates which of the 2 you are…
When the abbreviations are so commonly used that you can ask Google or Siri and get the right answer, then it’s fair to assume their meaning is clear to most people
You not knowing a term doesn’t mean it isn’t useful or important or crystal clear, it just means you don’t know it.
So you could either educate yourself if you care, or don’t, but don’t try to frame the terms as the problem, or dismiss them (and by extension, the people who they apply to/benefit from their use) outright, that’s just a cop-out on your end.
And they exist because despite it being assigned that way at birth, gender or sex aren’t actually determined only by “what is between your legs”, nor are there just two binary options, since both gender and sex are a spectrum, not simply xx= vagina=female or xy=penis=male.
And yet, they deserve to be included and considered. 🤯
(never mind that variation on the 3rd grade understanding of biology I described above are significantly more common than what I’m sure you’re willing to acknowledge. Sex and gender are spectrums, no matter how uncomfortable that might make you or how hard you try to deny it)
you should stop getting annoyed at anyone that mentions a slight thing that might suggest that they’re homophobic. They’re probably not.
I don’t get uncomfortable over the idea of a spectrum, just annoyed when people waste time nitpicking over tiny things like this that aren’t part of the actual argument/idea being presented.
And you should really stop tone policing people making relevant points to the subject at hand, because it makes you uncomfortable, transphobe (yes, calling inclusion “nit-picking” is transphobic, no, there is no other reason for you to be dying on this hill, I wasn’t even “annoyed” as you put it, just stating the obvious - this isn’t my first rodeo, clown, and your reply proves me right, so… ¯\(ツ)/¯ ).
Yeah, totally agree with that. But as a commenter above mentioned, the difference in lifespan is probably mostly social anyway, so the whole biology aspect isn’t really relevant.
But isn’t their point that the life expectancy of “biological men” also apply to trans women, and vice verca? That wouldn’t be conveyed if they used the prefix cis.
This would of course only be relevant if life expectancy is a purely biological phenomenon, which I am not so sure it is.
A fair bit of the difference in lifespan isn’t genetic, it’s social. Statistically, men and women don’t do the same jobs, and some of those are much more dangerous than others. Men are also more likely to get into accidents and violence, leading to younger deaths.
None of that cares about your genetics and your reproductive organs and hormones are only peripherally involved in it.
Also on average unmarried men live shorter than married men. While there is no difference between married and unmarried women.
Lol, what a convenient manipulation of reality you’ve done here!
Not only do married men live longer, but they do it at the expense of their wives, since women who are married live shorter lives (and are less happy!) than women who aren’t.
Men quite literally drain the life out of us.
https://fortune.com/2023/01/13/why-are-married-men-healthier-on-average-women-gender-research/
https://torontosun.com/health/married-men-live-longer-married-women-not-so-much-study
https://www.elle.com.au/life/sex-relationships/single-women-happy-study-20582/
Is “married” a shorthand for “settled down with a partner”?
alright scrap the sex split, let’s just break it down by household income and access to healthcare
Yes, that’s what I thought as well. Men being socialized to do more stupid stuff that might get you killed is probably the main factor here.
money tends to help soothe one’s ailments.
A fair point I hadn’t considered, but in that case AFAB/AMAB is still better than “biological male/female”, since that’s not even something most people know (I don’t know my chromosomal, hormonal, or DNA structures, do you?).
And what does that mean? Biological male/female seems pretty clear to me, whatever you’re born with between your legs indicates which of the 2 you are…
Well, if ACAB means All Cops Are Bad, then I’m guessing AFAB and AMAB must be All Females Are Bad and All Males Are Bad.
…Or maybe ACAB is supposed to mean Assigned Cop At Birth?
Both AMAB and ACAB are the same: Assigned Cock At Birth.
It means Assigned Male/Female At Birth, so it seems you agree.
Yeah I suppose, but using random abbreviations everywhere does not make the point any clearer
When the abbreviations are so commonly used that you can ask Google or Siri and get the right answer, then it’s fair to assume their meaning is clear to most people
You not knowing a term doesn’t mean it isn’t useful or important or crystal clear, it just means you don’t know it.
So you could either educate yourself if you care, or don’t, but don’t try to frame the terms as the problem, or dismiss them (and by extension, the people who they apply to/benefit from their use) outright, that’s just a cop-out on your end.
Those mean Assigned Female/Male At Birth.
And they exist because despite it being assigned that way at birth, gender or sex aren’t actually determined only by “what is between your legs”, nor are there just two binary options, since both gender and sex are a spectrum, not simply xx= vagina=female or xy=penis=male.
Feel free to educate yourself
not really relevant though, xx being biologically male/xy being biologically female are uncommon enough
And yet, they deserve to be included and considered. 🤯
(never mind that variation on the 3rd grade understanding of biology I described above are significantly more common than what I’m sure you’re willing to acknowledge. Sex and gender are spectrums, no matter how uncomfortable that might make you or how hard you try to deny it)
you should stop getting annoyed at anyone that mentions a slight thing that might suggest that they’re homophobic. They’re probably not.
I don’t get uncomfortable over the idea of a spectrum, just annoyed when people waste time nitpicking over tiny things like this that aren’t part of the actual argument/idea being presented.
And you should really stop tone policing people making relevant points to the subject at hand, because it makes you uncomfortable, transphobe (yes, calling inclusion “nit-picking” is transphobic, no, there is no other reason for you to be dying on this hill, I wasn’t even “annoyed” as you put it, just stating the obvious - this isn’t my first rodeo, clown, and your reply proves me right, so… ¯\(ツ)/¯ ).
I’m not dumb enough to not see the tone of your previous comments. goodbye.
Yeah, totally agree with that. But as a commenter above mentioned, the difference in lifespan is probably mostly social anyway, so the whole biology aspect isn’t really relevant.