Donald Trump continued his push on Saturday to win the Republican presidential nomination with a pair of caucus rallies in Iowa, beginning at the DMACC Conference Center in Newton and then culminating in Clinton. His speeches come on the third anniversary of Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol and a little more than a week before the Republican Iowa caucus commences on Jan. 15.

As for commemorating the solemn anniversary of Jan. 6, Trump lauded the insurrectionists, while labeling some immigrants as “terrorists” and prisoners and gang members. “And terrorists are coming in also. What they’re doing to our country is not — it’s it’s, when you talk about insurrection, what they’re doing? That’s the real deal. That the real deal — not patriotically and peacefully, peacefully and patriotically” he said, contrasting those who rioted as “peaceful” and “patriotic” against immigrants, who the four-time indicted former president continually paints as criminals.

“I’m so attracted to seeing it,” Trump said. “So many mistakes were made. See, there was something I think could have been negotiated to be honest with you. … I was reading something and I said, ‘This is something that could have been negotiated … that was a that was a tough one for our country… If you negotiated it, you probably wouldn’t even know who Abraham Lincoln was … but that would have been OK.”

  • Flying Squid
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    269 months ago

    I don’t understand why everyone acts like the civil war was fought to make slavery illegal.

    They don’t, because the Civil War was fought to keep slavery legal.

    That is why the South seceded.

    Every single declaration of secession of every confederate state mentions slavery if not at the very beginning than almost at the very beginning.

    https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

    I don’t know why you think they seceded, but it was undeniably due to the desire to maintain chattel slavery based on their own words.

    • @givesomefucks
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      -179 months ago

      The issue is, you guys are listening only to the conservative version…

      By that logic 1/6 was because Biden stole the election.

      Fortunately that’s still recent enough only one side believes that, but you all got me worried what people will say 200 years from now

      • Flying Squid
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        129 months ago

        No, I’m telling you what they literally wrote on the subject. I gave you a link to it. I suggest you read it.

        • @givesomefucks
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          -89 months ago

          You’re saying what conservatives said was the reason for the civil war…

          I’m pointing out conservatives always lie about that shit.

          Believing them about the civil war is like believing the modern ones about 1/6.

          Something I didn’t think would ever happen, but after this thread…

          Yeah. Idiots are going to keep falling for this. They’re going to keep taking the words of literal insurecctionists over reality. And then for some reason get offended when it’s pointed out that all they’re doing is falling for centuries old propaganda.

          Like, are you just too embarrassed to admit it now?

          Or do you really still think the traitors who fucking started a civil war would never lie about why they did it to make it seem like they’re the victims and had no choice?

          • Flying Squid
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            79 months ago

            What is your actual evidence that the confederate states lied about why they were seceding? Let’s see it.

            • @givesomefucks
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              -89 months ago

              Well, I’ve linked Lincoln inaugural address a few times, because it shows the North or the Feds had no desire to ban slavery… And that the big argument was return of escaped slaves…

              But here it is again I guess:

              https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/lincolns-first-inaugural-address

              It literally covers all of this, you should just read it. I’m not going to just keep linking relevant bits paragraph by paragraph for you to ask what the next says.

              But your resistance to reading is really helping me understand why you’re not getting this.

              I just never want to have an exchange like this again, so hopefully someone else can answer all the further questions you’ll undoubtedly have.

              I’m not putting anymore effort into you

              • Flying Squid
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                Sorry, did the Union secede from the Confederacy?

                Otherwise, why does Lincoln’s inaugural address prove they were lying about why they seceded?

                • @[email protected]
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                  No, no you don’t understand, you see.

                  You just have to read Lincoln’s inaugural address and that covers everything. All the other sources you bring up are all lies and beholden to my weird interpretation of the above, you see. And then they all just started fighting when Abe was in the bathroom for a few minutes longer than usual and they got confused about his address, you see?

                  And now my kids’ damn principal is telling me I can’t fly my flag on my truck when I drop 'em off?!