As negotiations get underway at COP28, we compiled a list of the leading research documenting the connection between meat and greenhouse gas emissions.
I don’t need to cater to you, you’re in a community designed to inform people about real climate science and spread knowledge about climate change. You’re talking total nonsense edging on the border of misinformation, which doesn’t deserve a serious response.
You don’t need to be an asshole either and yet you were anyway.
You feel my questions are nonsense. I feel that means you aren’t interested in debating the science.
You feel you know the truth and anyone that doesn’t accept your truth is beneath you. That will not convince anyone.
This isn’t science it’s an agenda. I am sorry you cannot understand the difference but the responses and downvotes I am receiving illustrate this clearly.
It’s just common sense that eating a plant is more efficient than growing many, many plants in order to feed an animal that is then eaten.
That said, I’m not willing to make that much of a personal sacrifice to push a boulder the size of Texas less than an inch. If we really want to make a difference, we need systemic change.
I’d absolutely support a 100% tax on meat. It’d be easier for us all to change if we did it together.
Sure, but that legislation is not on the table because the meat lobby wont even let people see what the inside of a slaughterhouse looks like and actually because of their lobbying power the exact opposite of what you are suggesting is true; instead of taxing meat, our tax dollars go to subsidize meat to keep it cheaper than plant based alternatives. We do actually need people to change individual habits, because the political machine has huge incentives not to change at all. Perhaps if the plant based lobby could become big enough to challenge the meat lobby we could make bigger changes, but that will require individuals making small changes in their diets first.
Again, claiming that anything you don’t like is illogical because emotions are at play is a highly emotionally argument. If you don’t think the science is rigorous, show scientific reasons why, because as In sure you are liable to say; the science doesn’t care how you feel about it, its either factual or it isn’t. You have no contradictory evidence, so you resort to, I feel this must be wrong because I don’t like it. That’s 100% emotional.
You are adding the emotions to my comments. I don’t give a fuck if you choose not to eat meat, you on the other hand have a problem with my choice.
The fact that the article has an agenda does not require me to rigorously dismantle every part of it. The agenda automatically disqualifies the science.
The argument you’re using is the same one that religious people use where they demand atheists disprove the existence of god and claim atheism is a religion.
Its also funny how you chose to infer how I feel about your choice to eat meat, which I actually never addressed. That’s just how YOU feel about what I said. What’s funny is that you are the one appealing to emotion, with your strawman argument about religion. In reality, this article makes conclusions based on a body of peer reviewed science. You claim you don’t like their slant and expect everybody to come along with you, when frankly nobody asked your opinion and in reality that is closer to what religions do in demanding atheists disprove god. This article actually demonstrates proof of facts with cited science. You claim those studies must all be wrong because they don’t prove your argument without so much as offering an alternative demonstrated by anything we can verify. So you’re essentially appealing to the idea of meat eating as an infallible diety for which you will accept no proof that contradicts its divinity. Again, its 100% emotion. Its just hilarious at this point. I’m having fun. You?
I don’t know what you’re on, but it’s impolite not to share. You should also read these studies so you don’t say stupid shit like this.
It would be easier to take this seriously if any one that questioned it wasn’t bombarded with personal attacks like yours.
This tells me you have made an emotional decision that you have backfilled with science and can therefore be ignored.
I don’t need to cater to you, you’re in a community designed to inform people about real climate science and spread knowledge about climate change. You’re talking total nonsense edging on the border of misinformation, which doesn’t deserve a serious response.
You don’t need to be an asshole either and yet you were anyway.
You feel my questions are nonsense. I feel that means you aren’t interested in debating the science.
You feel you know the truth and anyone that doesn’t accept your truth is beneath you. That will not convince anyone.
This isn’t science it’s an agenda. I am sorry you cannot understand the difference but the responses and downvotes I am receiving illustrate this clearly.
It’s just common sense that eating a plant is more efficient than growing many, many plants in order to feed an animal that is then eaten.
That said, I’m not willing to make that much of a personal sacrifice to push a boulder the size of Texas less than an inch. If we really want to make a difference, we need systemic change.
I’d absolutely support a 100% tax on meat. It’d be easier for us all to change if we did it together.
Sure, but that legislation is not on the table because the meat lobby wont even let people see what the inside of a slaughterhouse looks like and actually because of their lobbying power the exact opposite of what you are suggesting is true; instead of taxing meat, our tax dollars go to subsidize meat to keep it cheaper than plant based alternatives. We do actually need people to change individual habits, because the political machine has huge incentives not to change at all. Perhaps if the plant based lobby could become big enough to challenge the meat lobby we could make bigger changes, but that will require individuals making small changes in their diets first.
It’s not on the table because it’d be wildly unpopular, and anyone who proposed it would never get reelected.
Can’t say I know how to fix that, but that’s what I’d rather work on.
Again with appeals to emotion. What proof do you have that this is an agenda and not valid science apart from you don’t like the conclusions?
Again, claiming that anything you don’t like is illogical because emotions are at play is a highly emotionally argument. If you don’t think the science is rigorous, show scientific reasons why, because as In sure you are liable to say; the science doesn’t care how you feel about it, its either factual or it isn’t. You have no contradictory evidence, so you resort to, I feel this must be wrong because I don’t like it. That’s 100% emotional.
You are adding the emotions to my comments. I don’t give a fuck if you choose not to eat meat, you on the other hand have a problem with my choice.
The fact that the article has an agenda does not require me to rigorously dismantle every part of it. The agenda automatically disqualifies the science.
The argument you’re using is the same one that religious people use where they demand atheists disprove the existence of god and claim atheism is a religion.
Its also funny how you chose to infer how I feel about your choice to eat meat, which I actually never addressed. That’s just how YOU feel about what I said. What’s funny is that you are the one appealing to emotion, with your strawman argument about religion. In reality, this article makes conclusions based on a body of peer reviewed science. You claim you don’t like their slant and expect everybody to come along with you, when frankly nobody asked your opinion and in reality that is closer to what religions do in demanding atheists disprove god. This article actually demonstrates proof of facts with cited science. You claim those studies must all be wrong because they don’t prove your argument without so much as offering an alternative demonstrated by anything we can verify. So you’re essentially appealing to the idea of meat eating as an infallible diety for which you will accept no proof that contradicts its divinity. Again, its 100% emotion. Its just hilarious at this point. I’m having fun. You?
Wow, another emotional comment from Mr. Rational himself. Did I hurt your feewings?