The president’s speech at a South Carolina church did not go over well with the GOP candidate.
Joe Biden gave a speech in South Carolina on Monday, and Nikki Haley isn’t happy about it. Specifically, she’s not happy about the part where the president called her out for her extremely cringeworthy comments about the Civil War, saying, “Let me be clear, for those who don’t seem to know: Slavery was the cause of the Civil War.”
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The issue of the Civil War—and her commentary on it—has come up for Haley in the past. While running for governor of South Carolina in 2010, she described the war as a matter of two sides fighting over “tradition” and “change,” adding that the Confederate flag was “not something that is racist.” She also claimed there was no reason to take the flag down from the statehouse grounds (until five years later, after the mass shooting at the Charleston church). After Haley’s gaffe in December, Jaime Harrison, the chair of the Democratic National Committee, said that her failure to mention slavery was “not stunning if you were a Black resident in SC when she was Governor.”
The Confederate flag isn’t even a flag, it’s a war banner.
Actually, the cross-form of the confederate flag is a battle flag. (the actual confederate flag was too similar to the US star’s and stripes flag for identifying forces.)
So flying it is technically identifying yourself as an enemy of the US.
Battle flag, war banner, same difference.
Although I’m sure CGPGrey would chew me out just as much if not more than you have.
just making the point that, as a battle flag, flying it is literally identifying yourself as a member of armed services of an enemy of the US. That was always it’s purpose, and outside of reenactments… we should probably be inclined to treat them as such.
When the flag is carried into the capital building during election proceedings with the intent of of overturning an election, we should probably consider the hostilities actively renewed… (or, you know, just lock the fuckers up. that works.)
just as flying the Jack of the United States or the Ensign (which for the US is the US national flag,) identifies a ship as a ship of the US (USN, coast guard, Sealift command… NOAA).
Correction it’s a Southern Surrender Flag now
The flag of twice-failed insurrection
Oh no, the surrender flag is way more delicious.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/premium/article/confederate-dish-towel-appomattox-surrender-flag
Behold, the final flag of the US Confederacy:
That’s paywalled This link is not: https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/nmah_515980
Thank you for the non paywall link.
I’d just about forgotten my paywall bypassing browser extension but this is the second time recently I’ve accidentally posted paywalled content because it didn’t appear to be paywalled to me.
Thanks for the secondary link. Really the pic is enough though. 😁
No problem. I had never heard about it before so I appreciate you telling us about it.
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Technically, the same could be said for the American flag.
America lost wars but never surrendered their flags and banners in a total defeat