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Donald Trump told the president of the European Commission in 2020 that the US would “never come help” if Europe was attacked and also said “Nato is dead”, a senior European commissioner said.
Multiple news outlets said the exchange between Trump and Ursula von der Leyen at the World Economic Forum in Davos in 2020 was described in Brussels on Tuesday by Thierry Breton, a French European commissioner responsible for the internal market, with responsibilities including defence.
“You need to understand that if Europe is under attack we will never come to help you and to support you,” Trump said, according to Breton, who was speaking at the European parliament.
According to Breton, Trump also said: “By the way, Nato is dead, and we will leave, we will quit Nato.”
I disagree. I think it’s a global cabal of Russo-aligned neo fascists. The KGB turned Trump in the 80s.
Wouldn’t be the first time someone suggested the world’s problems could be laid at the feet of a secret cabal of evil foreigners. Hell, this was at the heart of the Red Scares of the 1910s, the 1930s, and 1950s.
More likely the reverse. Trump was laundering money for the plutocrats that would eventually take over the Russian state, most likely on behalf of American intelligence or some other domestic private interests. The 80s and 90s made a lot of bag men a lot of money, from Jeffery Epstein to John Gutfreund to Carl Ichan to George Soros. But Trump is notably shit at his job, so he never approached the heights of his NY peers.
The two likely knew one another, given Putin’s rapid climb from mayor to parliamentarian to president. But Trump’s absolutely fucking shameless. What would you do to compromise him that his political opponents haven’t already lobbed out on the campaign trail? Dude was certainly taking bribes, particularly through the Kushner family. But “turned”? Fucking please.
That’s what you call it when you make someone your agent. Turned.
Its what you call it when you make someone else’s agent your own.
I’ve seen absolutely nothing to suggest Trump is loyal to anyone except himself.
Except Putin, though, you mean.
Again, I’d point you to Trump’s arms deals with Ukraine in '17. He had zero compunction playing both ends against the middle for personal profit, dumping kerosene onto a brewing civil war, and then dumping the mess into the lap of the next guy in office.
Trump didn’t help Ukraine at all, quite the opposite. Again, in furtherance of Russian interests.
He sold them $40M in anti-tank missile systems and his state department advocated on behalf of Ukraine’s petition to join NATO.
The sale of these weapons and the advancement of their NATO petition are very explicitly in opposition to Russia’s stated foreign policy.