• @mightyfoolish
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    2210 months ago

    I remember my brother once telling me this:

    How is it stealing if it’s still there?

    • @[email protected]
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      310 months ago

      “You wouldn’t download a car”

      Well if I could magically construct an infinite number of copies of a car it’s not the same thing…not that I would ever pirate anything! That would be a horrible thing to do

    • @[email protected]
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      -4010 months ago

      So if I use your toothbrush to clean my asshole it’s fine cuz it’s still there right?

      • @[email protected]
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        5410 months ago

        If you can exactly copy said toothbrush and then clean your filthy bunghole with the copy it is totally fine, yeah.

        • @IHateFacelessPorn
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          10 months ago

          But the thing they are selling to you is not only the data. Also the right to use it. When a studio makes a game spending millions of dollars they don’t do it so one can buy it for 60$ and others can copy from him/her eh? Try moralizing it as much as you want. (If your being sarcastic sorry about that but doesn’t look like it) Privacy Piracy is stealing, and I am accepting I am stealing. No need to think otherwise.

          • @lorkano
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            10 months ago

            Sharing pirated content to millions of people is stealing, I agree. But it started differently. You bought the CD and you could lend it to friend, your game worked. Right now you buy games and only you can play it. Which is different with any other form of physical good. I buy a car I can let someone drive it for a day. Why shouldn’t this apply to digital goods as well? That’s how piracy started, because we couldn’t share our goods with friends anymore. Digital companies decided it’s loss for them.

            • Flying Squid
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              910 months ago

              Also, it’s legal to make a backup copy of something you own for personal use. And yet we can’t make backup copies of games even for personal use. I guess we don’t own them.

            • @IHateFacelessPorn
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              210 months ago

              Right now you buy games and only you can play it. Which is different with any other form of physical good. I buy a car I can let someone drive it for a day. Why shouldn’t this apply to digital goods as well?

              Yeah absolutely. Which is something I am completely agreeing of. But the thing is that doesn’t give us the right to steal it or make ourselves think it is not stealing. What I am doing is not buying such companies’ products + pirating if I really need it. But I don’t try to make it seem like how it is not (e.g. as it is not stealing).

              That’s how piracy started, because we couldn’t share our goods with friends anymore. Digital companies decided it’s loss for them.

              I am pretty sure when Napster was a thing music CDs were still a thing as they are now too.

            • 📛Maven
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              110 months ago

              I don’t know about you guys, but I share my digital games all the time. Steam and Switch have pretty decent share setups.

          • @TwilightVulpine
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            510 months ago

            Technically you don’t get the copy rights to a book when you buy it either, but you do get that one copy of the book and publishers can’t knock on your door demanding it back. You can even lend it or resell it.

            However as far as respecting the customers rights, game and digital media companies want to set their own terms.

            Is it Piracy to restore access to something you bought and got taken away from you? Well, if it is, I’m pro piracy.

      • @mightyfoolish
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        410 months ago

        Sure. I can even spit extra on it no charge if that makes your day. Just download me a clean one afterwards will you.

      • @[email protected]
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        No, because you’re still tampering with the original product. That is not analogous to piracy. If you make a perfect 1:1 replica of my toothbrush, and use that to pleasure yourself, I don’t care, because my toothbrush is still in my bathroom untouched.