Everyone can agree on VLC being the best video player, right? Game developers can agree on it too, since it is a great utility for playing multimedia in games, and/or have a video player included. However, disaster struck; Unity has now banned VLC from the Unity Store, seemingly due to it being under the LGPL license which is a “Violation of section 5.10.4 of the Provider agreement.” This is a contridiction however. According to Martin Finkel in the linked article, “Unity itself, both the Editor and the runtime (which means your shipped game) is already using LGPL dependencies! Unity is built on libraries such as Lame, libiconv, libwebsockets and websockify.js (at least).” Unity is swiftly coming to it’s demise.

Edit: link to Videolan Blog Post: https://mfkl.github.io/2024/01/10/unity-double-oss-standards.html

  • @[email protected]
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    -310 months ago

    Stop making excuses. If you don’t take a stand and do something on principle instead of your pocketbook, then Unity is not the problem, you are. Whether you want to accept it or not.

    You can go get a job at McDonald’s and survive. You can’t use your circumstances to justify enabling evil anymore. Not with me.

    • hswolf
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      410 months ago

      So you’re suggesting him to:

      Drop out of his job (which you may not know).

      Stop earning an amount of money that, may or may not be utterly necessary to keep his lifestyle (which you may not know).

      Spend months or years learning a new technology, meanwhile unemployed or with a job that may or may not sustain his previous expenses (expenses which you may not know).

      Re-make every single project that he owns to a new platform while adapting every single thing to a new environment, meanwhile solving a waterfall of bugs and refactoring problems, ultimately consuming hundreds of hours (bugs which you may not know).

      After living miserably for a while, hunt for companies that somehow are using an open source tool that, most of the time, won’t tick all the boxes a company needs from a tool (companies and boxes which you don’t know).

      Miraculously find such company and, miraculously rise to a position high enough that you can make a decision which changes the whole core of the development team, impacts licensing for other tools, new hires, compatibilities, and god knows what more down the line (changes which you may not know).

      You’re suggesting that he goes down years of an even more uncertain path… just because you feel like It? To me It sounds like an Evil person’s plan. How can you be so assertive saying something which you may not know about? Jesus

      • @[email protected]
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        -110 months ago

        If he cares about his career as a game developer then he’ll have to learn Godot and start porting his games to that platform if he wants to be in control of his games.

        If you think any of that is an absurd and unrealistic extreme, then you are part of the problem.

        Doing what’s right requires sacrifices and sometimes in life, we have to make those sacrifices not only for morality’s sake but for our own. He will lose everything if he doesn’t do what you’re suggesting.

        Sorry, but life is like that sometimes. You’re not meant to be comfortable all the time, you’re meant to be strong, and that means sometimes you will have to get a second job to do the things you want to do.

        Change isn’t going to just fall into your lap.

    • @linearchaos
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      010 months ago

      Heh McDonald’s and survive. You sound like a real family man, or are mommy and daddy still paying your bills?

      Further more, you project like theres no tomorrow. Your circumstances may be fine to stop the world and port. Honestly most aren’t.

      Ok I’ll stop joking.

      Will our next project be in unity? Probably not but maybe. What makes that decision? The cost of paying salaries to start over from scratch. We have a working unity framework, it has working plugins, hooks analytics, ads and sales for a ton of different companies. Some of those ads are iron source, now we’ll pay marketing to find and negotiate a new vendor. We actually ran the numbers. The new costs they were demanding were a shit sandwich, but they were still less than the cost of moving.

      You also have Godot’s lack of console support, which doesn’t affect me (at the moment) but does affect a lot of other people.

      • @[email protected]
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        -110 months ago

        Nah, I’m just the abuse survivor who traveled across the country to escape and worked at McDonald’s to escape the subsequent homelessness I found myself in once I reached the other side of the continental U.S. The one who knows what I’m taking about because I had to start my life over from scratch to not be murdered while your lazy, cowardly ass is whining about anything, anything being expected of you. That’s who the fuck I am.

        Now stop your pathetic whining and actually put forth effort into something other than making excuses for yourself. If you invested a fifth of a third of a quarter of the energy you dumped into arguing with me onto porting your games, you’d have been done by now.

        The responsibility for change lies solely on you, and if you refuse to sacrifice for positive change, the situation is solely your fault. The only one you have to blame is yourself.

        • @linearchaos
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          010 months ago

          That’s awfully funny cuz you sound like more like a bully. You sound like somebody that needs to boss everybody else around. You sound like somebody that doesn’t give a crap about anyone else or their situation. I think you’re a liar and probably a narcissist. And that said we don’t have anything else to talk about here as soon as I see you’ve read this message I’m going to block you

          • @[email protected]
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            110 months ago

            You sound like a bully when you presume to ad-hom someone who actually overcame impossible odds because you don’t want to admit I’m right and that you’re actually going to have to save yourself since you’ll never get the validation and rescue from your community that you want.

            You are 100% at fault for your own suffering because you won’t take responsibility and act to save yourself, and you have no one to blame for your plight but yourself. It’s as simple as that.

            I already know what you’re going to do though; you’re just going to keep whining, feeling sorry for yourself and playing victim while Unity apathetically locks you out of your life’s work and hides it behind a paywall, and the only one who’s going to suffer from that is you. 🤷