• InfiniteGlitch
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    1410 months ago

    Is your “you people” targeted at the ones using Adblock?

    If so, here’s another approach; If YouTube actually had a decent ‘premium’ without all the unnecessary “features” in it and the price wasn’t so unreasonable high. People might have paid for it.

    In my country YouTube Premium costs €12/monthly which is €144/yearly and for what? Unnecessary features and to block advertisements while still having in-video advertisements (sponsors). No thank you.

    I will go with uBlock Origin and Sponsorblock.

    • @LemmyIsFantastic
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      -3510 months ago

      People love premium. Let’s not confuse you and lemmys average user with the general public.

      $18 a month for family streaming + music is a bargain.

      Also, that’s all great that you use tools to get around it. My point is stop bitching about it or acting like Google is evil for blocking people who refuse to pay 🤷‍♂️

      • @HowManyNimons
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        $18 a month for family streaming + music is a bargain.

        Wow your brain really has been taken hostage hasn’t it?

        YouTube is a terrible music platform.

        YouTube videos aren’t worth that much.

        If I’m paying for streaming video content, I prefer to pay the creators directly than let YouTube take an outsize cut.

        YouTube has hundreds of times the reach of any other comparable service. They’re milking their monopoly. They can bite a dick.

        • Remmock
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          110 months ago

          But you don’t pay them directly. Hardly anybody does, except YouTube and whatever midroll sponsor they can hack a deal with. That’s WHY content creators insisted on paydays through YouTube to begin with and why YouTube is trying to make enough money to pay them all and look profitable.

          • @HowManyNimons
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            210 months ago

            But I do pay the ones I value directly.

            • Remmock
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              210 months ago

              Most Creators have communities where you can voice that desire if they don’t give you the information outright. Some do it through having companies of their own. Merch, coffee, and alcohol are common salespoints. JackSepticeye has a coffee brand and shares a clothing brand with Markiplier. Phillip De Franco also has a coffee brand and a clothing brand. Devin Stone (LegalEagle) doesn’t, but he’s part of the following push:

              Some are on other platforms that more directly reward the content creators, like Nebula. This allows them to have a Patreon-like model where some content is publicly available to drum up interest while other deeper or more long-form content exists behind a paywall. Communicate in communities with your favorite creators to find out how you can show them your support more specifically.

              • @HowManyNimons
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                210 months ago

                I know. I pay the creators I value by means such as that.

      • InfiniteGlitch
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        1210 months ago

        I’d agree that people love the tag-name ‘’Premium’’ therefore might pay for it. I’d also say tech-illiterate people will pay for it because of no knowledge.

        However most of the general public do find the price-tag absurd.

        Also your ‘’€18/monthly is a bargain’’ just makes me think, I’m arguing with a teenager or at least someone who does not pay for themselves (a friend or family member pays for most of things, I suppose). €18/monthly is €216/yearly, that money can be spent elsewhere, important things (food, education and bills).

        Not only that you are essentially saying ‘’Hey, Google. You the one who already owns most of the things, you the owner who’s already A billionaire and have immense data of its users – take more money of me’’. Google is essentially evil in the sense that their track-record isn’t clean. Their ways to gain profit/revenue is not really morally nor ethically right. They can just do it because they are one of the biggest companies in the world.

        I personally do not care if YouTube blocks itself for me, that just means – I will find another way to gain access to music and videos. There will always be ways, always.

        • @LemmyIsFantastic
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          I love how people who disagree with your value assessment are all technology illiterate. Just hand wave away all your problems 🤣.

          You’re arguing with a 40 year old with commits to Apache, Python, CNCF, NGinx, TF, and more. So again, your hand waving away because of a different opinion is quite off base.

          To address the comment, none of that matters at all and is irrelevant. Yes you can keep on stealing the content and you shouldn’t be shocked every time Google finds a new way to make it more of a pain in the ass. I’m not sure why that’s a difficult concept for most of the readership here.

          • InfiniteGlitch
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            10 months ago

            “Lets just say that person is tech-illiterate without actual knowledge about the particular person - because I have no counterargument”

            That what I just read from you.

            I’ll just block and ignore you, you’ve proven to be a total troll. Wasted enough of my time and energy on you. Unfortunately.

            ETA: if you’re truly 40 y/o, your behavior doesn’t show it. You are behaving like a teenager with the same mentality/mindset as one.

            Stealing is entirely different than using an AdBlock. With your “knowledge” in technology, you should know that by now. The question of “is piracy stealing” is a whole another topic which can be argued to infiniteness.

          • @HowManyNimons
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            510 months ago

            What in the world is motivating you to justify YouTube’s corpo enshittification? If you’re telling the truth, you’re easily old enough to realise that Baron Google isn’t going to share his wealth with useful idiots. Why would you spend your weekend extolling overpriced subscription services and berating ad avoiders on Google’s behalf?

            • @LemmyIsFantastic
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              -810 months ago

              God forbid I find value provided by successful companies. THE HORROR!

              • @HowManyNimons
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                510 months ago

                But why the finger wagging? I get that you’d drop in and say “I prefer to pay for premium rather than play cat-and-mouse with Google” but that point was made long ago.

                • @LemmyIsFantastic
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                  -710 months ago

                  Finger wagging? I came in and said it’s completely expected for Google to block users and this is somehow controversial.

                  • @HowManyNimons
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                    No, you came here to order us to “Pay, or use a different service”. Are you being paid by Google to do this?

      • Remmock
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        110 months ago

        I don’t generally agree with the corporate side of the argument, but financial support for the platform itself has to come from somewhere.