• @[email protected]
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      411 months ago

      Not the person above, but Corporations are built around the idea of selling something. The biggest way to reduce your environmental impact is to not buy shit. Doesn’t matter if the shit is eco friendly, more shit means more emissions.

      Corporations don’t pollute for shits and giggles. They pollute because they want to make stuff for us to buy. Shell doesn’t just make pollution, they pollute on the way to producing gas.

      If we cut back on how much gas we use, Shell pollutes less because they have less gas to sell.

      That doesn’t absolve Shell of their role in chasing profits over environmental protection, and there’s plenty of space for demanding better and holding them accountable, but acting like these corps pollute just cuz is disingenuous. They pollute because we want shit.

      • @LemmysMum
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        611 months ago

        So I need food, but it’s all sold in plastic, should I starve? Or should I blame those who produce food?

        • @[email protected]
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          111 months ago

          You should blame them and still choose options with less plastic where possible? I don’t see where this idea of black and white, one or the other comes from

          Where it’s feasible given your financial and geographical means, avoid food wrapped in plastics, foods shipped from far away, and meats. Not every single item in the store comes in plastic. It will require adjusting your habits, for sure.

          No need to demonize anyone for not being able to if it doesn’t work, but every time you choose something better, it’s an incremental step forward.

          At the same time, send an email or phone call to the grocery store manager. Write to your local politician and push for laws regarding stricter use of plastics, more comprehensive recycling programs, or funding and grants for local farmers.

          Simply being angry online and not changing your own habits or lobbying for change isn’t actually improving anything.

          • @LemmysMum
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            511 months ago

            Can’t buy what isn’t sold.

            • @[email protected]
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              Really? Every single item is wrapped in plastic at your grocery store? No loose apples, cucumbers, potatoes, or leafy greens?

              If those are all wrapped in plastic, then look for what options have less plastic. Avoid double wrapped items, for example, or anything marketed as single servings.

              I feel like none of this is that hard to come up with. It’s unfortunate you don’t seem interested in an actual conversation. Hope you have a better rest of your day.

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                Can’t buy milk, can’t buy bulk beverages, can’t buy frozen vegetables, can’t buy cheese, can’t buy premix salad, can’t buy bread, can’t buy cookies, can’t buy coffee, can’t buy dried ingredients, can’t buy meat.

                Don’t be disingenuous because you want to be blind to reality and it’s effects.

                  • @LemmysMum
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                    211 months ago

                    If that’s what you read that’s a you problem.

    • @HappycamperNZ
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      211 months ago

      I disagree - they are acknowledging that it is a joint effort. They pollute huge amounts to make things we choose to buy under ethics we as as a society accept.

      Not also saying there is also individual responsibility is hypocrisy.