Have you tried playing CRPGs instead of RPGs? They tend to be a lot less heavy on grind and crafting, and the combat systems are usually much more fun IMO (though I totally understand if you’re not into that style of combat).
Diablo 2, skyrim, oblivion, the witcher 3… all felt like having a crappy boring job where i have to interact with people i don’t like all day and nothing really feels worth doing but i gotta pick something and do it anyway. it also doesn’t help that 90% of the genre is indistinguishable tolkien knockoff worlds either making no effort or trying way too hard to stand out as unique and I’m beyond sick of that crap.
I looked up CRPG because to me it mean “computer role playing game” but apparently now it refers to top-down point-and-click games under the heading “classic role playing game”, like that’s any more descriptive or clearly defined. Because this disjointed, confused genre needed more vaguery in the names of its subgenres.
Anyway most of these examples look like Diablo 2 so I’m going to assume that’s the type of game you mean - and I think it’s the same crap from a different camera angle. I don’t think I could say it’s “completely different gameplay” to something like Skyrim without feeling like a liar because the loop is bang on the same.
I’m sorry the terminology is so vague and inconsistent, and I’m so disengaged from “gaming” culture and behind on genre labels that I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about. Do you mean the genre formerly known as “point-and-click adventures”, like Disco Elysium?
bruh this looks identical to diablo. no really this is my first time seeing the game and i thought i must have typed diablo into the search by mistake. What makes it a different genre?
Other than the perspective and some of the more general RPG features like leveling and loot, they have very little in common. BG3 is the perfect, but unfortunately rare, example of a mainstream game that deliberately doesn’t follow the more toxic trends of the industry
Did you actually look at the gameplay or did you stop after the first still image showed that Diablo and BG3 both have a top-down perspective and general medieval fantasy theme?
That’s worse than saying Call of Duty and Counter Strike are identical. You shoot guns and play against other people in both, but they’re significantly different experiences. You can play deliberately in COD or run and gun in CS, but that isn’t what each game rewards. The focus of each game is drastically different. CS doesn’t have killstreaks like in COD, and Diablo doesn’t have comprehensive roleplaying like in BG3.
The top-down isometric RPG experience is what it always meant, because it’s a computer replication of the original tabletop RPG experience. TTRPGs were just called RPGs, and adapting them to game format added the c, therefore becoming cRPGs.
Have you tried playing CRPGs instead of RPGs? They tend to be a lot less heavy on grind and crafting, and the combat systems are usually much more fun IMO (though I totally understand if you’re not into that style of combat).
Diablo 2, skyrim, oblivion, the witcher 3… all felt like having a crappy boring job where i have to interact with people i don’t like all day and nothing really feels worth doing but i gotta pick something and do it anyway. it also doesn’t help that 90% of the genre is indistinguishable tolkien knockoff worlds either making no effort or trying way too hard to stand out as unique and I’m beyond sick of that crap.
Those aren’t CRPGs. I’m talking the likes of Baldur’s Gate, Divinity: Original Sin or Shadowrun. Completely different gameplay.
I looked up CRPG because to me it mean “computer role playing game” but apparently now it refers to top-down point-and-click games under the heading “classic role playing game”, like that’s any more descriptive or clearly defined. Because this disjointed, confused genre needed more vaguery in the names of its subgenres.
Anyway most of these examples look like Diablo 2 so I’m going to assume that’s the type of game you mean - and I think it’s the same crap from a different camera angle. I don’t think I could say it’s “completely different gameplay” to something like Skyrim without feeling like a liar because the loop is bang on the same.
This stuff is pretty much the opposite of Diablo. Honestly insulting that you assume that I wouldn’t recognize that.
I’m sorry the terminology is so vague and inconsistent, and I’m so disengaged from “gaming” culture and behind on genre labels that I honestly don’t know what you’re talking about. Do you mean the genre formerly known as “point-and-click adventures”, like Disco Elysium?
No, I’m not talking about adventures. Just look up some gameplay videos for Baldur’s Gate 3.
bruh this looks identical to diablo. no really this is my first time seeing the game and i thought i must have typed diablo into the search by mistake. What makes it a different genre?
Other than the perspective and some of the more general RPG features like leveling and loot, they have very little in common. BG3 is the perfect, but unfortunately rare, example of a mainstream game that deliberately doesn’t follow the more toxic trends of the industry
Did you actually look at the gameplay or did you stop after the first still image showed that Diablo and BG3 both have a top-down perspective and general medieval fantasy theme?
That’s worse than saying Call of Duty and Counter Strike are identical. You shoot guns and play against other people in both, but they’re significantly different experiences. You can play deliberately in COD or run and gun in CS, but that isn’t what each game rewards. The focus of each game is drastically different. CS doesn’t have killstreaks like in COD, and Diablo doesn’t have comprehensive roleplaying like in BG3.
The top-down isometric RPG experience is what it always meant, because it’s a computer replication of the original tabletop RPG experience. TTRPGs were just called RPGs, and adapting them to game format added the c, therefore becoming cRPGs.