• @TwilightVulpine
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    610 months ago

    AI use for defamatory purposes, such as deepfake porn mentioned in another post here, applies whether one is a a massive celebrity or a regular person. As the technology becomes more common, don’t you think there will be people using it on their school and work colleagues and neighbors, for a variety of petty reasons?

    You talk about how horrible it would be for people to sell their likeness, without considering that without such laws and protections they can just have their likeness taken with no consent or compensation.

    I am seeing a lot of grandstanding of how these laws are just the powerful taking rights away from the common man, but it seems to be exclusively from the angle of how that affects the AI user, not the regular people whose likenesses might get used by AI.

    To be fair here’s good reason to be careful over how this matter is legislated, as media companies love to use any excuse for overreach. But the solution is not leaving the internet a wild west of people smearing each other by faking videos.

    Consider that the advent of the camera created a need for many laws, because before then even the most realistic image was known to be fabricated rather than a replica of reality. Now AI and other new media technologies are creating possibilities which we never had before, for which our previous laws are insufficient.

    • @General_Effort
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      -110 months ago

      Not having oppressive and exploitative laws does not make “a wild west”.

      Even so, I would always choose a wild west over neo-feudalism, as the lesser evil.

      • @TwilightVulpine
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        310 months ago

        Those are not the only two options, and the existence of laws and regulations does not make it “neo-feudalism”.

        • @General_Effort
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          110 months ago

          This act wants to create a privilege for the famous. It expends their control over public discourse and lets them collect money without working.

          Unearned privileges for an elite are neo-feudalism.

          • @TwilightVulpine
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            -110 months ago

            Not every artist is rich and famous either, most are not. It’s disingenuous to pretend they are,

            Saying artists want to “collect money without working” when people are trying to get AI trained on their works without permission to replicate their output is a total reversion of the situation. The artist already put on their work, the ones wanting things without work are the AI users.

            But I see discussing this won’t go anywhere. If you won’t even admit what an overblown hyperbole it is calling it “neo-feudalism” then there’s no discussion to be had.

            • @General_Effort
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              110 months ago

              Did you see “Thank You for Smoking” and think that’s the best thing one can be?

              I’ve never even hinted that every artist is rich or famous. I believe your posts are intentionally misleading. Nevertheless, if you take back the implied lie about me, I will continue to entertain the idea that you are not intentionally manipulative.