Things like “Fiat stands for “Fix It Again Tony”” etc.

  • mommykink
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    Buick has always been pretty good. The LaSabre drives like a sofa on wheels and the 3800 is a decent enough motor.

    I’d also say that Panther body Fords punch way over their weight class.

    • Montagge
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      1111 months ago

      The push rod engines GM made like the 3400 and 3800 are pretty good. The aluminum used for the heads in the early 2000s was way too soft causing rocker arms to pop off. The 4T65E transmission often paired with it was a piece of junk. Also anything with Dexcool is just no.

      I wouldn’t touch a Ford after the early 2000s with someone else’s the foot pole. The Panther was fine but it hasn’t been made since 2012. The best was probably the Crown Vic of you wanted a giant car, but I don’t consider the ones after the early 2000s all that good.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️
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        211 months ago

        I’ve said it before but the ultimate end goal of Ford engineering is to design the Möbius part: A regular maintenance component of a vehicle that is so difficult to access that not only do you have to remove everything else to get it out, it is also in the way of itself so it cannot be removed without first removing itself. But you can’t do that without removing itself first, which you also can’t do because you have to remove itself…

        The only path forward will be to throw the entire car away, walk to your Neighborhood Ford Dealership, and buy another one.

    • Dark Arc
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      111 months ago

      Yeah I know quite a few old buicks from the early 2000s that lasted into the 300k mile ball park.