A pirated car would just be a more free way to access the $10k/yr pay wall you live your life behind. Car-dominant infrastructure is vendor lock in.

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  • @FireRetardant
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    So what happens when your car has no cell service? Or you don’t own a phone that supports the app? The only use case I can see is long distance remote start but I’m struggling to determine why someone would reasonably need that.

    The only reasons they went away from RF is to justify subscriptions and further push the smart device trend where everything can connect to your phone.

    • @[email protected]
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      RF range is very limited and there is no feedback of success/failure or current state. My neighbour’s RF remote start wouldn’t work through 2 townhouses. It also doesn’t work from high-rises or office building.

      How often do you lose cell reception in a parking lot? (Mostly open space with few things to interfere with cell signal).

      • @Juvyn00b
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        310 months ago

        You are aware that there are rf solutions that provide feedback? Not saying range limitations don’t exist, but there are solutions that claim to provide a fair reach.

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          I am aware. I didn’t think it was necessary to explain that it’s possible to make an data stream reliable, but doing so requires a lot more power which isn’t great for a coin-cell battery.

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          If you’re in a basement, you don’t need remote start. It’s really only for when your car is exposed to the elements.

          • @FireRetardant
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            Basement parking garages are not necessarily heated so remote start could still be useful during cold weather.

            • @[email protected]
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              Not heated, but slightly insulated. When I was in Manitoba, that meant most parking structures were roughly 15°C-20°C than outside.

        • @[email protected]
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          I’m very aware of RF bands. I didn’t think I needed to explain how RF worked, why the range of a car remote is so limited, and why is impractical to use a lower band. As the frequency gets lower, the data throughout decreases and the size of the antenna should increase.