Thank you for your properly cited, well researched fact. I really appreciate the vast amount of research you did to come up with this conclusion. Will you be publishing this in some sort of peer reviewed journal?
The first two are very biased news organizations thanks for wasting my time with those. Harvard has a paper every few years about how women, “Would make more if they worked for another company in their sector.” Which just shifts the blame to women, instead of the companies paying them less.
Interestingly, the article you added to your comment shows pretty much the same conclusion as those “biased” articles – most of the “wage gap” is explained by career choices.
The gender pay gap is insignificant and inconsequential compared to the income differences between working and owning classes. Also, much of the pay gap is due to men culturally tending to not have the option of escaping the grindset. “Honey I’m going to quit my job and do something that doesn’t alienate me, yes it’s going to pay less” is not something universally accepted by wives.
In addition to being less likely than men to say they are currently the boss or a top manager at work, women are also more likely to say they wouldn’t want to be in this type of position in the future. More than four-in-ten employed women (46%) say this, compared with 37% of men. Similar shares of men (35%) and women (31%) say they are not currently the boss but would like to be one day. These patterns are similar among parents.
The wage gap exists because women have reasonable expectations for work-life balance (one reason). Men are culturally expected to rise and grind.
This isn’t the win that wage gap enthusiasts think it is. It’s essentially saying:
Still missing the point. Giving everyone more doesn’t fix inequality.
Giving those with less the means to exist doesn’t make what you have lesser.
The point you’ve made here seems to be, corporations are bad, everyone is exploited now, and if anyone wants to make money you have to give up your life to do so.
Also, the part of the paper you’ve cherry picked suits your narrative but doesn’t paint the entire picture.
It’s missing context, so yes, it’s a problem. With the entire context, there IS a wage gap. But you just cut that part out for the little anecdote that suits your needs. Nice. A+ I bet your teachers loved you.
Okay, next time a woman you know complains their male coworker makes more, go ahead and tell her to work more, I bet she’ll just love that. Especially if you word it juuuust like that. “Sell more time.”
Not really, since that’s just the same ill-defined “Earnings Gap” nonsense constantly peddled as a “wage gap” for decades. As this article from Forbes and the sources inside explain, and has been well-known for a decade at this point, “When comparing two people in the same profession, with the same seniority, working the same number of hours, and so forth, women earn $0.98 for every dollar that a man earns.”
Their source for that number has since updated that number to $0.99 for every dollar a man earns for the same work.
So, unless you think that women should be paid significantly more than men for the same work (which wouldn’t surprise me, given your other comments in this thread), Rejoice! for the “wage gap” is no more!
It should be dollar for dollar, don’t act like I have implied anything more. I’m done with this, as you missed my original point:
Giving everyone more doesn’t fix inequality.
You’re not wrong, but the wage gap? Not going to close if we give everyone a raise. It would be the same wage gap.
The wage gap is a myth.
Thank you for your properly cited, well researched fact. I really appreciate the vast amount of research you did to come up with this conclusion. Will you be publishing this in some sort of peer reviewed journal?
Editing to add links from another comment.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/03/01/gender-pay-gap-facts/
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/pew-research
I posted a comment on the internet, not an article in a journal. But if you want, here are some citations:
https://fee.org/articles/harvard-study-gender-pay-gap-explained-entirely-by-work-choices-of-men-and-women/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2019/06/06/dispelling-myths-about-the-gender-pay-gap/
Glad sarcasm is alive and well.
The first two are very biased news organizations thanks for wasting my time with those. Harvard has a paper every few years about how women, “Would make more if they worked for another company in their sector.” Which just shifts the blame to women, instead of the companies paying them less.
Please, think a little harder next time.
Interestingly, the article you added to your comment shows pretty much the same conclusion as those “biased” articles – most of the “wage gap” is explained by career choices.
The gender pay gap is insignificant and inconsequential compared to the income differences between working and owning classes. Also, much of the pay gap is due to men culturally tending to not have the option of escaping the grindset. “Honey I’m going to quit my job and do something that doesn’t alienate me, yes it’s going to pay less” is not something universally accepted by wives.
I’m pretty sure that by this point most reasonable people have realized that the wage gap is a myth, so that’s probably not your best example.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/03/01/gender-pay-gap-facts/
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/pew-research
A study and a bias check on the source from the study. Happy?
The wage gap exists because women have reasonable expectations for work-life balance (one reason). Men are culturally expected to rise and grind.
This isn’t the win that wage gap enthusiasts think it is. It’s essentially saying:
Still missing the point. Giving everyone more doesn’t fix inequality.
Giving those with less the means to exist doesn’t make what you have lesser.
The point you’ve made here seems to be, corporations are bad, everyone is exploited now, and if anyone wants to make money you have to give up your life to do so.
Also, the part of the paper you’ve cherry picked suits your narrative but doesn’t paint the entire picture.
Yes, I chose the part of the paper that supported my argument.
So what? Is it out of context? Nope.
You literally sell your time (life) to get money. That is what a wage is. Want more money? Sell more time.
I’m not saying that is a bad or good thing. I’m stating straight facts.
It’s missing context, so yes, it’s a problem. With the entire context, there IS a wage gap. But you just cut that part out for the little anecdote that suits your needs. Nice. A+ I bet your teachers loved you.
Okay, next time a woman you know complains their male coworker makes more, go ahead and tell her to work more, I bet she’ll just love that. Especially if you word it juuuust like that. “Sell more time.”
Which I included in my post. No context missed, glad we cleared that up.
No, I’d tell her to lawyer up because the business better have a legal reason.
Not really, since that’s just the same ill-defined “Earnings Gap” nonsense constantly peddled as a “wage gap” for decades. As this article from Forbes and the sources inside explain, and has been well-known for a decade at this point, “When comparing two people in the same profession, with the same seniority, working the same number of hours, and so forth, women earn $0.98 for every dollar that a man earns.”
Their source for that number has since updated that number to $0.99 for every dollar a man earns for the same work.
So, unless you think that women should be paid significantly more than men for the same work (which wouldn’t surprise me, given your other comments in this thread), Rejoice! for the “wage gap” is no more!
It should be dollar for dollar, don’t act like I have implied anything more. I’m done with this, as you missed my original point: Giving everyone more doesn’t fix inequality.