• @Viking_Hippie
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    188 months ago

    I get trying to push Biden to do better

    Do you, as a group, though?

    Every time someone posts an article about how it’s a bad thing that Biden is actively contributing to a genocide, the top comment is Trump whataboutism.

    Yes, Trump is much worse, both on Israel and in general, but that’s not the fucking point!

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      Biden ain’t doing shit. He’s gonna go to Michigan and lie, then he’s going to maintain the same policies the US has for decades. It’s silly to think otherwise. And so it goes.

    • @Potatofish
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      08 months ago

      You are very wrong. It is the point. The purpose of those posts is to confuse voters and discourage voting. The bigger picture is that Trump and MAGA can never be allowed to win for the good of the entire world.

      • @Viking_Hippie
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        28 months ago

        The purpose of those posts is to confuse voters and discourage voting

        Yeah, because people can’t POSSIBLE honestly have a problem with the guy who’s supposed to represent any American to the left of fascism supporting genocide! Has to be a voter suppression plot! 🙄

        Trump and MAGA can never be allowed to win for the good of the entire world.

        True, but that doesn’t mean that we have to set the bar at the abyssal point “better than Trump” rather than actually hold Biden accountable for his words and actions.

        • @Potatofish
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          You missed the point again. Those posts aren’t for you. They are for the easily swayed masses.

          • @Viking_Hippie
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            28 months ago

            You missed the point again

            YOU deflected from the ACTUAL point again.

            • @Potatofish
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              Just stop. If you can’t grasp what’s important, don’t bother responding.

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                “Omg, I just can’t keep up with this discussion. Just stop! Okay?? Just sToP!!

                  • ???OP
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                    28 months ago

                    I know, right? Almost like you toss around like an angry baby when you think people don’t understand your point, yet your “point” is usually just a quippy and quick piece of misinformation or a trolly hit-and-run statement.

                    I’ve never blocked anyone on Lemmy but you are a prime candidate for the first one to have that honor.

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            Ah yes, Potato Fish… you are the smartest of us all 😍 😍 😍 /s

              • ???OP
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                Exactly to an /s post? 😂

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      Trump is much worse, both on Israel and in general, but that’s not the fucking point!

      Except that the only two actual choices for the next 4 year cycle are Trump and Biden. Do that really us the point.

      Putting your progressive politics focus on the president is a losing game, anyway. Praxis is local.

      • ???OP
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        208 months ago

        Wouldn’t this energy be better invested in getting Biden to stop supporting the Israeli genocide so that his Arab and Muslim voters don’t abandon him?

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          When it comes to American politics and actually affecting change, I think the energy is best invested in supporting progressive candidates from the bottom (local) up (national). Go to the primaries and vote for any candidate you can that is closer to your views if there are any. But when the time comes to vote for Biden, Trump, or abstain, anything other than voting for Biden is a vote for Trump, who is far worse in every conceivable way.

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        I didn’t realize the primary was over.

        It’s funny how that and the fact that the Democratic party has already, against it’s own rules, removed all candidates other than Biden from the ballots in 10% of the States never gets brought up.

        Instead we get a bunch of people posting in an attempt to shame people into voting for someone who supports genocide because ‘what else are you going to do’

        I wish the Democratic party acted like Trump was the existential threat we all recognize him to be.

      • @Viking_Hippie
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        178 months ago

        So as long as he’s marginally better than a deranged fascist rapist, criticism of him isn’t allowed at all?

        Fuck off with that authoritarianism bullshit!

        • @HipHoboHarold
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          138 months ago

          I definitely feel like so many actual democrats are starting to show similar signs as MAGAts did. It’s been there to an extent, but holy shit is it getting bad. Now it’s either love him or you’re a borderline terrible person.