Particularly, why are they so desperately pushy about it? WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE IN IT FOR THEM???

I would understand if I was having to pay for the upgrade. Then, ya know, they would be MOTIVATED by the fucking PROFIT MOTIVE.

But it’s an apparently entirely free upgrade. So please, could someone fill in these blanks for me: “Microsoft wants me to upgrade to Windows 11 (and then 12) because _______. They will directly (or even indirectly) benefit in the following ways: ______________________”

Now, I’m not a complete fucking moron. I realize that they want to close out support for Windows 10. But that doesn’t explain the out-and-out salesmanship that’s going on, every time the fuckers try to get me to upgrade.

A couple other things, before you even start yapping at me:

First off, I will only upgrade to Windows 11 or 12 when I am absolutely forced to do so, on the day that Windows 10 becomes unsupported, and will therefore become a security risk.

NOTHING will convince me to “upgrade” my operating system before that date. Nothing. I don’t care what you have to say. You WILL fail to persuade me. Don’t even make the attempt.

In my opinion, Windows 7 should have been the last version of the OS. It should just have been patched forever, until some kind of major revolution in the whole basis of computing finally made its entire architecture fundamentally obsolete.

Updating an operating system is beyond drudgery, and each “upgrade” adds completely counter-productive, worse-than-useless bloat and nonsense. There is nothing to be excited about, when a new version of any operating system comes out. They should literally stop coming out.

Second, I’m not switching to Linux. I have used Linux in the past, for specific tasks and specific situations, but it will NEVER be my primary operating system, on my primary PC.

Do not bother trying to convince me to switch. Again: you WILL fail to persuade me. Do not waste your time. Linux is always 80-90 percent of the way toward being a true turn-key, user-friendly solution, especially for someone who has a long history of using Windows software, for both work and gaming. And 90 percent good simply isn’t good enough.

The learning curve isn’t worth it. No, I don’t want to hear anything you have to say about that. I’m not interested in how good the current version of whatever Linux branch has gotten. Do not bother. I promise you, I will not be reading it.

EDIT: if you even mention Apple, I will just laugh in your face.

  • @Buffalox
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    I think Windows 8 is the most hated version of Windows ever. Balmer jumped the gun on that one, trying to integrate UI design between Microsoft phones and desktop Windows, was never seen as a benefit by users. I guess many believe Windows 7 was the last really good version of Windows.
    Personally I love these Windows upgrades, every single one of them. They are always good opportunities for Linux users to get good hardware dirt cheap.
    As to why Microsoft wants you to upgrade IDK, maybe because it helps OEMs sell more machines, each with a paid Windows license?
    Microsoft may also have upped the level of advertising and found more ways to monetize it.

    • @RightHandOfIkaros
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      510 months ago

      I think Windows 8 is the most hated version of Windows ever.

      You must not have been around for Millenium Edition.

      • @registeredusername
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        410 months ago

        WindowsME was really a bad and traumatic moment. He had a mental block ;)

      • @Buffalox
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        Yes I was, and that was bad, but people mostly hated it for being bloated. Windows 8 was a whole other level of hate. Millennium was more like Vista.

        • @RightHandOfIkaros
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          410 months ago

          ME had only partial compatibility with DOS software despite being a DOS based OS, but it also did not support the newer NT kernel that XP was based on. It was very unstable, even worse than 98 was. It was even worse than XP prior to the 2004 Service Pack that fixed XP. It was so bad that it only existed for a single year.

          The biggest problem people had with 8 was the Metro UI. And yeah, that thing was hideous. Prioritized touxhscreens over actual desktop productivity.

          But 8 was functionally faster than 7. I’d even say that Vista users suffered more than 8 users.

    • Froyn
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      I challenge your claim that Windows 8 is/was the most hated version of Windows.
      Let me remind you of the trainwreck that was Windows ME.

      • @Buffalox
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        110 months ago

        Windows ME did not have forced upgrades, and was more like Vista.

    • Chill Dude 69OP
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      many believe Windows 7 was the last really good version of Windows

      That’s not a belief. It’s a fact.

      As to why Microsoft wants you to upgrade IDK, maybe because it helps OEMs sell more machines, each with a paid Windows license?

      How does that connect to me being borderline tricked into accepting a free “upgrade” on my desktop PC, in my house, over the top of my existing Windows 10 install. They think I’m going to get “hooked” on the new Windows bells and whistles, and go begging my boss to upgrade our workstations, at the office?

      Microsoft may also have upped the level of advertising and found more ways to monetize it.

      I think this is the bingo. The new version has more and more ways to make money off of user data, selling you services, whatever.

      • @Buffalox
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        How does that connect to me being borderline tricked into accepting a free “upgrade”

        Maybe it fucks up your computer, especially if it’s an older one, so you give up on it, and buy a new one that just works.

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          I doubt it. It’ll just be bloated and annoying, for no reason. Even on the new machines.