• @MotoAsh
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    OK so one of the slavers is nicer than the other… You’re still owned by slavers. Holy fuck, Liberals are just as fucking dumb as conservatives.

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        Funny meme, doesn’t make me wrong. The comic itself agrees with me.

        Funny how people deny the truth when it’s not stated as a joke. Almost like you all aren’t actually processing the message. Democrats are liberals. Democrats are still allowing Republicans to keep your wages down.

        • @NateNate60
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          You use the word “liberal” like it is supposed to be an insult

          • @MotoAsh
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            It should be. Almost as bad as “conservative”.

            • @NateNate60
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              What you’ve said is that someone who agrees with you 50-80% of the time is as bad as someone who thinks you are the devil incarnate and doesn’t agree with you at all.

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                No you utter numpty. What I said is the equivalent of, “if you have a nazi sitting at a table and five people sitting at the table who won’t condemn the nazi, you have six nazis.”

                Learn. From. History.

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                  Yes, and you’re still a moron in context. Perfect is the enemy of good. Nothing happens immediately. It took 4000 years to go from Feudalism to capitalism and will take 4000 more to become real socialism. Gain some perspective instead of chirping off quips out of context like the muppet you are. All mouth, no brain.

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                    Am I saying not to vote for Joe? Again, all you fucking morons do is assume… Pitiful.

    • @NateNate60
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      Arguments against electoral democracy by so-called socialists always boil down to “it’s not perfect so why bother”.

      Okay, so keep complaining. Your vision of a better tomorrow isn’t going to magically come true if you complain hard enough. You can help make it come true only by participating in the political system we have today. Even if you think it doesn’t work, you have no choice but to participate anyway and hope you are wrong.

      This is how I got banned from Hexbear. I told someone “You can either participate in the current system or plot to overthrow it. Are you working with the next Lenin or Mao, or merely fantasizing about it?”

      So what about you? What are you doing to build the future you want?

      • @MotoAsh
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        I’m not complaining to complain and I’m not saying don’t vote. What the flying fuck are all these assumptions coming from you?

        What I’m saying is the two party system gives you a choice between two enemies. Yet you dumbasses CONSTANTLY pretend that Democrats good just because Republicans bad.

        A vote doesn’t, and SHOULD NOT, come with an ass kissing.

        • @NateNate60
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          I make these assumptions because the type of people who use the type of language that you do and espouse similar views to you tend to also do these other things. It’s called “generalisation”, and although I apologise if I’ve made an incorrect one, it is a part of human thinking and everyone does it, including you.

          It is my belief that the terms “good” and “bad” are poor labels and not suitably descriptive, especially for most political ideologies. I can only say that Democrats tend to enact policies that I agree with more while Republicans do not. That is why I say that Democrats are “better”. Whether “better” means “good” is irrelevant. I don’t like the two-party system and I work to change it by circulating ballot initiatives to move us toward proportional and ranked-choice voting. But when we only have two choices, it makes sense to vote and campaign for the one you disagree with least, then criticise and exert political pressure as necessary to nudge them in the right direction. Note that political pressure comes only collectively as a voting bloc, and a voting bloc that doesn’t participate isn’t going to be effective at exerting political pressure and having their demands acceded to. I understand that you vote, but not everyone who thinks the way you do does.

          • @MotoAsh
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            “… and then criticize and exert political pressure as necessary…”

            Yes, exactly. and it’d be really fucking nice if people would stop treating me like a Republican for stating the BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS of, “hey guys, the Democrats aren’t your allies, either.”

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            So pathetic how you claim to support democracy but shit on anyone who criticizes your precious political party and then make juvenile excuses for doing so.