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Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ‘uncommitted’ in Michigan’s primary on Tuesday
Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.
“It’s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote that’s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,” she said on Sunday during an interview on CNN’s State of the Union. “A second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.”
Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Biden’s 2024 campaign, also said she wasn’t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.
Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote “uncommitted” in Michigan’s 27 February primary.
Is Tlaib suddenly going to be Biden’s best friend after the Michigan primary? How can you vote for someone you’ve been accusing of genocide for months? No, the people she is inflaming simply won’t vote. Or, maybe they’ll even vote for Trump using the skewed logic that angry, hurt and frustrated people use. Either way, Tlaib is helping Trump whether she means to or not.
As always, the solution centrists want is for the progressives they hate to shut up.
That’s exactly what all you guys are endlessly telling people to do. Tlaib isn’t why people think Biden is supporting a genocide and her shutting up isn’t going to make people not think that, so you better hope either Biden works to make it not a genocide or people are able and willing to vote for someone they see supporting one.
These stupid purity tests need to end. You can’t cut ties with someone over single issues with insanely complex situations. Especially when the alternative is not possible on top of wouldn’t be different.
Are you saying we should vote for Trump? Because…screw purity tests.
What? A purity test is discounting someone on your side because of a small part of their views.
Sorry. Didn’t realize we were voting for teams and not policies. My bad.
The policies are the same
F. Now my vote doesn’t matter.
Exactly
Yeah, why should a genocide be your “line in the sand?”
Both sides of the line support Israel. Either you’re saying it in bad faith or need to take your head out of the sand. Anti-Israel isn’t on the ballot. If you want a full fledge war in the Middle East, feel free to not vote Biden and give the GOP the conflict they’ve been wanting since the bush admin.
You’re confusing me. If I’m getting a genocide either way, then it doesn’t matter if I vote Biden or Trump.
Yes, you are confused, and you are also trying to confuse the issue with false equivalence. The outcomes of a Trump presidency and a Biden presidency are not going to be the same, either in the Middle East or more broadly.
So we can stop the genocide by voting for Biden? Which vote stops the genocide? Or, do we want the genocide, but not if Trump’s doing it? Or, do we not want the genocide, but it’s okay if Biden’s doing it? Or, is genocide bad regardless of who is President?
You are being obtuse intentionally, I assume, to make a point. Withdrawing support for Israel is not one of the options. Your choices are status quo or fascism. And if you choose not to choose, then you are still making a choice. Trump can be elected by a combination of active support and negligence on the part of those who could stop him.
>Anti-Israel isn’t on the ballot.
pretty sure the anti war green party will have a candidate on your ballot
Not that has any chance of winning.
moving the goalposts indicates to me that you’re not really engaging in good faith.
Show me a federal election that a green candidate has won. The goalposts haven’t been moved, they never were in a place where green could win in the first place.