• Flying SquidM
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    309 months ago

    Guy, Guy, Guy… Fairhaven and not Threshold?

    • Bonehead
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      429 months ago

      I’d still prefer those over Tattoo, where they scrambled to shoehorn in an alien explanation for Chakotay’s odd Native beliefs after it was discovered that the consultant on Native beliefs they hired was a complete fraud.

      • MaggiWuerze
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        109 months ago

        Uuh, do you have a link to that story? I always found that episode so weird

      • yukichigai
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        69 months ago

        Oh is that why that episode was created? I had no idea.

        I’ll give them credit on hushing it up. I watched Voyager as it aired and I didn’t find out about the fraud “Native American” they hired until years later.

      • Flying SquidM
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        49 months ago

        I understand why they did it though. They had to do something and they couldn’t just say “well, Chakotay was a fake indigenous American all this time.”

        They should have been more up-front about the whole thing, but I can see why they did it.

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          39 months ago

          They could have kept most of that episode as a character background filler without the aliens traveling 70000 lightyears over multiple generations just to visit some primative tribe with no language on some backwater planet. That part seems to be the most awkward to shoehorn in.

          • @Makeitstop
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            59 months ago

            Don’t forget that the technologically superior visitors who brought culture to the primitive natives were given the distinct visual design of being white. Nope, no unfortunate implications there.

          • Flying SquidM
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            29 months ago

            I’m not saying they did it well. I’m saying they were kind of forced into it.

            • @Makeitstop
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              59 months ago

              I feel like they could have just stopped focusing on his made up culture. He could still bring up authentic bits of culture and trivia when relevant, but it could be featured about as prominently as Picard’s french heritage, rather than dominating the character like Worf’s klingon heritage.

              They could maybe even throw in a line at some point about how much of his people’s heritage is lost due to that nuclear holocaust thing that messed the Earth up a bit back in the day. Acknowledge the disconnect with reality connecting it to the established lore.

              Or it would have been fun to find out that he’s actually the descendant of a fraud and the whole culture he was raised to believe in was a scam. But that might have been a little too on the nose.

    • Guy FleegmanOP
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      9 months ago

      I feel like you are overselling “Alliances,” but to be fair, this shot was pretty cool

      The Trabe ship attacks the conference

      They definitely blew the effects budget for the season, though. They put it in the commercial and I swear, it was every other commercial on UPN that week.

      • VindictiveJudge
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        29 months ago

        To be fair, the makeup department won that award and absolutely deserved it.

        • yukichigai
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          39 months ago

          True. I never would’ve believed Kate Mulgrew could look so much like a lizard.

    • @EdibleFriend
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      99 months ago

      Lizard sex ghost sex it’s all fappable.

      • @grue
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        59 months ago

        Thanks, I hate it. And I nearly spat out my coffee.

        • @EdibleFriend
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          49 months ago

          I wonder if Bev spit or swallowed the ectoplasm.

          • Flying SquidM
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            69 months ago

            I’m not supposed to ban people for making me want to vomit, but you sure make me want to have my mod powers taken away right now.

            Ick.

            (I don’t actually want to ban you.)