At work we somehow landed on the topic of how many holes a human has, which then evolved into a heated discussion on the classic question of how many holes does a straw have.

I think it’s two, but some people are convinced that it’s one, which I just don’t understand. What are your thoughts?

  • zalack
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    1 year ago

    What if you bored from both ends of the cylinder until they meet in the middle?

    There would be two holes until, at the moment of contact, it becomes one?

    Does the method with which the straw shaft is created influence the number of holes it has?

    • @SpaceNoodle
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      No, topologically there would be no holes until the moment of contact. This is the same as there being no hole when drilling through from only one side until the surface on the opposing side is broken.

      • Boddhisatva
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        51 year ago

        Yes, but topologists can’t tell a doughnut from a coffee cup so they’re clearly insane.

      • Perhaps
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        21 year ago

        So how does one “dig a hole?” Straight to China? Or whatever is opposite of you?

        • @SpaceNoodle
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          31 year ago

          Topologically, yes. Buy you could also go down a bit, make a lateral tunnel, then pop back up.

          • livus
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            1 year ago

            So what you are saying is, if I dig a hole that doesn’t go anywhere, then that’s not really a hole?

            • eu
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              21 year ago

              In topology, yes. It must go through to count.

              • livus
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                31 year ago

                That’s fascinating. So most of what I would call “holes” are what, in topographical terms, hollows? Depressions?

                • eu
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                  31 year ago

                  I don’t even know if they have a name for that since it can simply be undone by stretching the object, which is allowed under topological rules.

            • @SpaceNoodle
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              21 year ago

              Topologically, yes. Coincidentally, “Hole to Nowhere” is the best Talking Heads parody album.

    • TwilightVulpine
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      11 year ago

      Not only that, but if you pinch it in the middle until the passage closes, could it still be called just one hole?