• This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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    Your first mistake was to speak in a language which randomly decides to have some extra letters which it doesn’t pronounce.

    • @LwL
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      6910 months ago

      Like english?

        • Bonifratz
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          1910 months ago

          There’s nothing worse in terms of pronunciation than English. French is silly for writing twice as much as what’s pronounced, but at least it mostly follows some rules.

              • Promethiel
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                1810 months ago

                The one at the bottom who is supposed to just fucking walk but keeps threatening the stability of the whole thing by randomly blurting out nonsense.

                In the dimly lit boudoir, she sat at her ornate bureau, perusing an array of gourmet hors d’oeuvres, contemplating which avant-garde piece from her repertoire to perform at the soirée, her silhouette an epitome of haute couture elegance. Meanwhile, her fiancé, a connoisseur of fine arts and a critic of the bourgeoisie’s penchant for laissez-faire economics, prepared a detailed critique on the nuances of ballet and the je ne sais quoi of modern art installations, embodying the esprit de corps of their eclectic salon.

                Statements dreamed by the utterly deranged.

            • @grue
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              910 months ago

              “The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.” –James D. Nicoll

            • @NightAuthor
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              810 months ago

              What’s so wild is that, as a native speaker, there are SO many rules and edge cases and exceptions…. And I know them by heart without ever being told them explicitly. First example that comes to mind is the whole order of adjectives…. We say big fluffy purple cat, never purple fluffy big cat.

              • @[email protected]
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                410 months ago

                I can’t imagine trying to teach that or explain it in a way that would be satisfactory to someone learning English.

                “I don’t KNOW, its just how we do it!”

                • @grue
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                  210 months ago

                  If you can’t have a satisfactory explanation then at least you could have an unsatisfactory one from Tom Scott, and that’s the next best thing, right?

                • @AnUnusualRelic
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                  410 months ago

                  There’s small cat medium cat and big cat. Any cat clothes shop will tell you the same.

            • @[email protected]
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              110 months ago

              Also, people love to break what little rules it adheres to and claim “eh, it’s already broken, so let me do this dumb thing a little further because Alicia said it was hella fetch.” And that’s why people can’t pluralize “email” properly and why everyone under 40 knows no adverb but “literally”.

          • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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            1610 months ago

            I learnt English as my second (technically third) language. Other two languages I know are written and spoken exactly the same.

            So take it from me, French pronunciation can be baffling or straight up ridiculous at times. English has got nothing on it. I don’t care if French aren’t heureux at this comment.

            • @herrvogel
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              They are baffling and ridiculous but they are consistent in that. Once you learn one baffling and ridiculous rule, you can successfully apply that rule to correctly pronounce almost any new word you’ve never encountered before. Eaux is a stupid fucking way of writing “o” to be sure, but at least you will always immediately know how to pronounce it without ever having to guess, or hear it from someone else. Meanwhile in English you write “read” but you pronounce it “read”.

              There are of course exceptions, but show me one language in the world that has none.

              • @davidgro
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                110 months ago

                An example I like is that alchemy didn’t turn lead to gold, but it did lead to chemistry.

            • Bonifratz
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              110 months ago

              Well, I learned English as my second and French as my third language, and I see it the other way around. Agree to disagree I guess.

          • @[email protected]
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            I am now very competent in Spanish and making no progress in French. Real speakers sound nothing like the classroom. It’s so frustrating. I feel like the French are all mumbling with Nutella in their mouths, but my tutor is clear as a bell.

              • @samus12345
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                310 months ago

                “Or when sounded as A, as in neighbor and weigh.”

                “Weird.”

                “Dammit!”

                • @[email protected]
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                  110 months ago

                  I hate that wiener (giggity) obeys the rule but is pronounced like it should be weiner. At least that word doesn’t come up (giggity) too often.

                  • @samus12345
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                    That one’s because the word comes from Wien (Vienna), and in German you pronounce “ie” as “E” and “ei” as “I”. In English it’s a free-for-all!

        • Franklin
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          I am currently learning French and what gets me is how much of the French language is contextual for its meaning

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              I know you ioke but French (or a common root language) shaped so much of what the English language is today it wouldn’t surprise me if French influence is why we have that in English as well

              • @samus12345
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                210 months ago

                It’s both. The Romans and later Christianity brought Latin influences, then the Normans brought French influences.

      • @Klear
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        510 months ago

        Exactly like English!