How is this uplifting news? You killed an intelligent animal. I will never find this anything but grotesque that people think that our lives are more important than everything else’s on the planet.
We’re a really dumb species sometimes. Probably why we got climate change bcz we forgot we are actually part of the ecosystem, not above it.
Edit: Downvote all you want. I’m aware that this isn’t a popular opinion.
It’s actually interesting because your point on ethical considerations was actually raised in the article itself. It’s an important thing to think about and discuss, no matter which “side” you’re on.
I will say, on the kidney side of things…you do have two so I suppose there’s a chance they let the pig live. I just skinned the article but I couldn’t find out that info unfortunately.
I’m glad the point was raise bcz I think it’s important to consider that these animals are thinking, breathing, feelings beings just as much as we are.
The fact that we have slaughter houses full of them is a crime against nature in my opinion.
I tend to get a lot of hate when this comes up bcz people aren’t willing to think of species other than humans as of equally deserving of life an autonomy. I honestly don’t understand why it’s a controversial opinion considering mu opinion, is be kind and stop being cruel.
But then again, we can’t even do that for our own species, so why should I expect we can view other species as deserving of respect.
Haha, I’m playing the victim him here. Classic. Every time I make this comment I get people calling me an idiot, a weirdo, stupid, etc. Look at the comments around yours. You aren’t the only person responding to me.
And this isn’t even the first time, or second for that matter that I’ve had this conversation.
A new kidney is the current treatment. My position is that we should be researching ways to treat renal failure that dont involve using animals as objects to grow organs. Its unethical in my opinion, hard line for me.
It is a waste of research dollars that could be better spent elsewhere on an actual cure/treatment.
My question to people that think this is okay would be to put yourself in the shoes of the animal. Would you be okay being an organ host yourself? My guess is most likely no.
Well, pigs have the intelligence of a small child, and they are aware of what you’re doing to them. I don’t support my tax dollars going toward research like this. That’s my position.
We can research ethical ways to treat the disease, we just don’t want to, and I think that’s very sad for our species.
Edit: To be clear, this is where I differ with most people. I view all lives as equal. A humans life is not worth more than anything else on the planet, no more, no less. It is a fundamental disagreement that most people don’t share with me. I get called names quite often when I share this opinion.
but I’d bet thousands that if the doctor came to you and said that person’s best chance for not only surviving but living is one of these genetically modified pigs, there will be one more dead pig.
You’d be wrong. This is a deeply deeply held conviction of mine that we are not more worthy of life than any other species on this planet.
How is this uplifting news? You killed an intelligent animal. I will never find this anything but grotesque that people think that our lives are more important than everything else’s on the planet.
We’re a really dumb species sometimes. Probably why we got climate change bcz we forgot we are actually part of the ecosystem, not above it.
Edit: Downvote all you want. I’m aware that this isn’t a popular opinion.
It’s actually interesting because your point on ethical considerations was actually raised in the article itself. It’s an important thing to think about and discuss, no matter which “side” you’re on.
I will say, on the kidney side of things…you do have two so I suppose there’s a chance they let the pig live. I just skinned the article but I couldn’t find out that info unfortunately.
I’m glad the point was raise bcz I think it’s important to consider that these animals are thinking, breathing, feelings beings just as much as we are.
The fact that we have slaughter houses full of them is a crime against nature in my opinion.
I tend to get a lot of hate when this comes up bcz people aren’t willing to think of species other than humans as of equally deserving of life an autonomy. I honestly don’t understand why it’s a controversial opinion considering mu opinion, is be kind and stop being cruel.
But then again, we can’t even do that for our own species, so why should I expect we can view other species as deserving of respect.
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The uplifting part is that someone’s child or father or mother or auntie or uncle didn’t die when they otherwise would have.
I don’t find it uplifting to kill an animal so a human can live. That’s not uplifting to me.
Fun fact! Killing animals to sustain human life is the only reason we’ve made it this far.
Gee thanks for that enlightening statements.
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I think it would be if it were your child they were saving.
Absolutely not. There are treatments for these diseases that don’t involve killing, abusing, or maiming other sentient creatures.
Just because I place equal value on the life of other species, doesn’t make my opinion wrong.
I would venture to say, that the hate I’m getting says more about the people replying to me than it does me.
I think you’re playing the victim here. Nobody said they hate you. We’re having a conversation.
What’s the treatment for renal failure that’s as good as a new kidney?
Haha, I’m playing the victim him here. Classic. Every time I make this comment I get people calling me an idiot, a weirdo, stupid, etc. Look at the comments around yours. You aren’t the only person responding to me.
And this isn’t even the first time, or second for that matter that I’ve had this conversation.
Well, sorry that other people can’t have a civil conversation. I am doing, though, or at least I hope it’s being perceived that way by you.
You didn’t answer the question about the treatment you mentioned for renal failure.
A new kidney is the current treatment. My position is that we should be researching ways to treat renal failure that dont involve using animals as objects to grow organs. Its unethical in my opinion, hard line for me.
It is a waste of research dollars that could be better spent elsewhere on an actual cure/treatment.
My question to people that think this is okay would be to put yourself in the shoes of the animal. Would you be okay being an organ host yourself? My guess is most likely no.
Well, pigs have the intelligence of a small child, and they are aware of what you’re doing to them. I don’t support my tax dollars going toward research like this. That’s my position.
We can research ethical ways to treat the disease, we just don’t want to, and I think that’s very sad for our species.
Edit: To be clear, this is where I differ with most people. I view all lives as equal. A humans life is not worth more than anything else on the planet, no more, no less. It is a fundamental disagreement that most people don’t share with me. I get called names quite often when I share this opinion.
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We can cure these diseases without killing animals, and save children. That is a false dichotomy on your part.
I do appreciate you calling me a weirdo tho for having empathy for intelligent species other than humans. It speaks magnitudes about you, not me.
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You’d be wrong. This is a deeply deeply held conviction of mine that we are not more worthy of life than any other species on this planet.
This seems strange to me. So in your opinion, pig lives are just as valuable as human lives?
What about the life of a fish? An ant? A mushroom? A rose? A bacteria?
Are they all equatable to a human life?
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Because I’m not here to debate with people. I voiced my opinion on the subject, and that’s about all I care to do.