UN Security Council passes resolution calling for an “immediate ceasefire” in Gaza, as US shifts position by abstaining from vote

  • Blackbeard
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    728 months ago

    This is a pretty big shift for the US, and it means the pressure is finally starting to really register with Biden. If the “uncommited” results in the Michigan primary were enough to get his attention, recent polling that puts him 8 points behind Trump likely changed the debate for the foreseeable future.

    • @Rapidcreek
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      Biden is playing diplomatic chess. Netanyahu warned the US before the vote that Israel would not participate in a meeting if the US didn’t use its veto. So, now the US didn’t. BTW, Hamas launched rockets at Ashdod right before the Security Council voted confirming its status as an equal fighting party in the war before a ceasefire.

      • @gmtom
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        188 months ago

        What you mean to tell me geopolitical diplomacy is more complicated and delicate than the people screaming “genocide Joe” think it is??? Shocking.

        • @soratoyuki
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          308 months ago

          No. It means enough people screaming genocide Joe loudly enough had a small but tangible impact on American foreign policy.

            • @AgentDalePoopster
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              148 months ago

              You don’t think that realizing he was pissing off his base, during an election year, has any impact on his choices?

              • @[email protected]
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                -88 months ago

                Considering those people are not going to vote Trump over this, or probably any issue, I don’t think he cares, no.

                • Aniki 🌱🌿
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                  78 months ago

                  It’s not about people changing their minds. Centrists don’t really exist. It’s about motivating people to actually fucking vote. When people vote, Dems win. When Dems are unpopular, people don’t vote and Rs win because they vote no matter what.

                • @njm1314
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                  -18 months ago

                  You say that but I think there’s a sizable number that already are voting for Trump

            • @soratoyuki
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              88 months ago

              Certainly not, but he definitely cares about the 100,000 people that voted uncommitted in Michigan and the littany of polls that show a majority of Democratic and young voters not supporting current US foreign policy.

            • @pjwestin
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              28 months ago

              The uncommitted movement got 100K votes Michigan, and within days the Biden administration started a complete 180 on Israel. It’s more than a few Twitter users and he clearly cares very deeply.

          • @gmtom
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            -128 months ago

            No

            So you’re unironically arguing that geopolitical diplomacy IS actually simple? Really?

            • @soratoyuki
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              108 months ago

              I recommend you read the second sentence that you declined to quote.

              • @gmtom
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                That sentence isn’t relevant though is it?

                Do you think geopolitics is that simple or nah?

                • @soratoyuki
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                  98 months ago

                  Of course the sentence is relevant. I’m not sure why I should bother writing a reply to you when you apparently stop reading them after the first word. Have a good day.

                  • @gmtom
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                    -118 months ago

                    JFC you aren’t even denying it. you guys actually unironically believe it’s that simple.

        • @Rapidcreek
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          Do you suppose that Bibi believes there are ramifications for going into Rafah now?

      • @mkwt
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        So you’re saying that Biden had another motivation here: telling Netanyahu, “the US ain’t nobody’s bitch, and you don’t tell me what to do.”

    • @BlackPenguins
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      Multiple polls had Biden ahead of Trump before this happened too.

    • Maeve
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      -68 months ago

      I said elsewhere, “just in time for November.” Didn’t be fooled.

      • @gmtom
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        108 months ago

        Don’t be fooled by what?